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baldy
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PZL P.7a
When UncleTgt and I posted our PZL P.11c Rami expressed the hope that we might also do the earlier aircraft, the P.7a - well we have and here it is - as usual UncleTgt has done most of the work - I've done the model so I claim all the credit - anyway here she is, I'm uploading now
hope it meets with approval
baldy
When UncleTgt and I posted our PZL P.11c Rami expressed the hope that we might also do the earlier aircraft, the P.7a - well we have and here it is - as usual UncleTgt has done most of the work - I've done the model so I claim all the credit - anyway here she is, I'm uploading now
hope it meets with approval
baldy
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baldy
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PZL P.7a.zip
A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - Other
Description: Single engine Polish fighter aircraft of the 1930s. Mainly replaced in front line squadrons by the PZL P.11c, However at the time of the German invasion there were still 30 P.7s forming three fighter squadrons and 70+ others in support units. At the end of the campaign several aircraft escapted to Romania where they were used as trainers.
To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit PZL P.7a.zip
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.
A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - Other
Description: Single engine Polish fighter aircraft of the 1930s. Mainly replaced in front line squadrons by the PZL P.11c, However at the time of the German invasion there were still 30 P.7s forming three fighter squadrons and 70+ others in support units. At the end of the campaign several aircraft escapted to Romania where they were used as trainers.
To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit PZL P.7a.zip
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.
Reply...
Baldy,
Does it meet my approval??? I can't thank you enough for these! I've been saying for years that my biggest regret for Fall Weiss and Poland 1939 was not having updated Polish aircraft. You've done both main fighter types, as well as the Karas. These are all very nice models, but more importantly, they remain relatively simple and are very FPS-friendly, making them perfect as replacements for the originals.
If you choose to do so, the P-11c can easily be modified into a P-11a...all you'd need to do is slap on the skin from the Fall Weiss version and delete the exposed gun ports on the top wing, because she only had the two grooved on the sides of the fuselage.
If that's all you can do, that's fine...the last two would be a PZL P-37 (K. Malinowski's version is not multi-lod) and the RWD-14/Czapla. Then that's a full replacement!
For the record, the P-11s used the British Mercury for a sound pack, the Karas has a Bristol Pegasus (I included this with my Balkans campaign sets, among others) and the P-7 uses a Bristol Jupiter.
Baldy,
Does it meet my approval??? I can't thank you enough for these! I've been saying for years that my biggest regret for Fall Weiss and Poland 1939 was not having updated Polish aircraft. You've done both main fighter types, as well as the Karas. These are all very nice models, but more importantly, they remain relatively simple and are very FPS-friendly, making them perfect as replacements for the originals.
If you choose to do so, the P-11c can easily be modified into a P-11a...all you'd need to do is slap on the skin from the Fall Weiss version and delete the exposed gun ports on the top wing, because she only had the two grooved on the sides of the fuselage.
If that's all you can do, that's fine...the last two would be a PZL P-37 (K. Malinowski's version is not multi-lod) and the RWD-14/Czapla. Then that's a full replacement!
For the record, the P-11s used the British Mercury for a sound pack, the Karas has a Bristol Pegasus (I included this with my Balkans campaign sets, among others) and the P-7 uses a Bristol Jupiter.
baldy
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Polish aircraft
Hi Rami,
Glad you like our efforts - couple of things - is there a Bristol Pegasus sound pack ? couldn't find one when doing the model - is there a Bristol Jupiter sound ?
As to P.11a - simple to delete wing guns but texture would have to wait till Uncle gets back from holiday unless there's the right one in his pack.
However I'm a bit busy with this at the moment
this one is not quite so simple but I aim to persevere
baldy
Hi Rami,
Glad you like our efforts - couple of things - is there a Bristol Pegasus sound pack ? couldn't find one when doing the model - is there a Bristol Jupiter sound ?
As to P.11a - simple to delete wing guns but texture would have to wait till Uncle gets back from holiday unless there's the right one in his pack.
However I'm a bit busy with this at the moment
this one is not quite so simple but I aim to persevere
baldy
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Baldy,
Yes...it used to come with the Alphasim Swordfish years back when the Fairey Swordfish model was still payware. When they became freeware, I don't think they included the sound pack with it, but I figured what the hell, and included it with the Balkans campaign, so you can grab it from that if you need it.
Also, the Handley-Page Hampden has a twin-engined variant of the Pegasus which has one of the best startup sequences I've ever heard. That's also in the SOH library.
As far as a Bristol Jupiter, there is not.
And thank you for the PZL P37!
Update: There is not the appropriate skin for the -11a, so I have no issue waiting. I know UncleTgt is heading out; I'm working closely with he and Devildog73 on something.
Baldy,
Yes...it used to come with the Alphasim Swordfish years back when the Fairey Swordfish model was still payware. When they became freeware, I don't think they included the sound pack with it, but I figured what the hell, and included it with the Balkans campaign, so you can grab it from that if you need it.
Also, the Handley-Page Hampden has a twin-engined variant of the Pegasus which has one of the best startup sequences I've ever heard. That's also in the SOH library.
As far as a Bristol Jupiter, there is not.
And thank you for the PZL P37!
Update: There is not the appropriate skin for the -11a, so I have no issue waiting. I know UncleTgt is heading out; I'm working closely with he and Devildog73 on something.
Reply...
Baldy,
My pleasure. By the way, thanks for the rent-a-wreck version. I used the Romanian skin to remind myself to change it upon general release.
You shouldn't have to do anything else for this (-11a) model. Essentially, the PZL P-11a variant was an up-engined P-7a. There were very minor detail changes between the 11-a and 11-c, including some subtle streamlining and a minor lowering of the engine in the nose to give the pilot a better view. You already covered the latter in the -11c, and frankly, I really doubt that anyone flying her would notice, even a rivet-counter.
The changes are very minute, and really didn't lead to any increase in performance, primarily because the removal of the two .303 machine guns and their ammo make the -11a a little lighter, and thus made their performance about equal.
Baldy,
My pleasure. By the way, thanks for the rent-a-wreck version. I used the Romanian skin to remind myself to change it upon general release.
You shouldn't have to do anything else for this (-11a) model. Essentially, the PZL P-11a variant was an up-engined P-7a. There were very minor detail changes between the 11-a and 11-c, including some subtle streamlining and a minor lowering of the engine in the nose to give the pilot a better view. You already covered the latter in the -11c, and frankly, I really doubt that anyone flying her would notice, even a rivet-counter.
The changes are very minute, and really didn't lead to any increase in performance, primarily because the removal of the two .303 machine guns and their ammo make the -11a a little lighter, and thus made their performance about equal.
baldy
SOH Staff
Polish aircraft Sept 1939
In the ongoing attempts to update the Polish aircraft in CFS2 I offer two wips - PZL 37a Los and PZL 37b Los
as you can see they're basically the same aircraft with on major difference - the tail unit - the 37a has one fin/rudder - the 37b has two
at present the paint shop is closed for holidays but will resume soon.
baldy
In the ongoing attempts to update the Polish aircraft in CFS2 I offer two wips - PZL 37a Los and PZL 37b Los
as you can see they're basically the same aircraft with on major difference - the tail unit - the 37a has one fin/rudder - the 37b has two
at present the paint shop is closed for holidays but will resume soon.
baldy
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Outstanding work! 
baldy
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Lublin R-XIII floatplane
Hi
I'm currently doing this a/c and I've read that one of these floatplanes attempted a bombing raid on the old German battleship ' Shleswig Holstein ' near the port of Danzig. My problem is that I've been unable to discover any info at all about how bombs were carried or how many or what size - so if anyone can help me out I'd be more than grateful.
pic of landplane wip
thank you in advance
baldy
Hi
I'm currently doing this a/c and I've read that one of these floatplanes attempted a bombing raid on the old German battleship ' Shleswig Holstein ' near the port of Danzig. My problem is that I've been unable to discover any info at all about how bombs were carried or how many or what size - so if anyone can help me out I'd be more than grateful.
pic of landplane wip
thank you in advance
baldy
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No Dice
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Best I can find so far:
Tube rack under cockpit:
http://www.modelwork.pl/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=25314&start=30&view=print
Tube rack under cockpit:
http://www.modelwork.pl/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=25314&start=30&view=print
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baldy
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Lublin R-XIII bomb rack ?
Hi No Dice
Is that a bomb rack - some pics show it central and some off-centre to starbord ( and all are drawings - so how reliable ? )
one article says 'a stick of 55lb bombs' - what does that mean ? information is very sparse - I might have to invent but I'd rather not
baldy
Hi No Dice
Is that a bomb rack - some pics show it central and some off-centre to starbord ( and all are drawings - so how reliable ? )
one article says 'a stick of 55lb bombs' - what does that mean ? information is very sparse - I might have to invent but I'd rather not
baldy
baldy
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bomb rack
I think you're right - the only mention of bombs is with regard to the attack? on the Shleswig Holstein but it seems illogical to have an off-centre bomb rack
if that tube thing was central it could have been a fixing for, say, a couple of twin racks for 20kg bombs but I'm just guessing
so we'll just have to keep looking
thanks for your help No Dice, I've still got plenty of work to do on both the land- and floatplanes
baldy
I think you're right - the only mention of bombs is with regard to the attack? on the Shleswig Holstein but it seems illogical to have an off-centre bomb rack
if that tube thing was central it could have been a fixing for, say, a couple of twin racks for 20kg bombs but I'm just guessing
so we'll just have to keep looking
thanks for your help No Dice, I've still got plenty of work to do on both the land- and floatplanes
baldy
baldy
SOH Staff
Bomb rack ?
Hi Boatz
I think that clinches it - having found no real evidence of bomb loads I think we must conclude the fitters at the Hel base jury-rigged some kind of bomb release probably on the wings
Much appreciate your contribution to this search and I can make the appropriate change to the model
baldy
Hi Boatz
I think that clinches it - having found no real evidence of bomb loads I think we must conclude the fitters at the Hel base jury-rigged some kind of bomb release probably on the wings
Much appreciate your contribution to this search and I can make the appropriate change to the model
baldy
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No Dice
Charter Member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lublin_R-VIII
There could be mounted an additional fuel tank, increasing the range to 1720 km, though this reduced the bomb load.
Bomb load: in bomber variant up to 1000 kg, in seaplane variant - 300 kg.
Still researching...info is vary scarce.
There could be mounted an additional fuel tank, increasing the range to 1720 km, though this reduced the bomb load.
Bomb load: in bomber variant up to 1000 kg, in seaplane variant - 300 kg.
Still researching...info is vary scarce.