Polish government dead in plane crash!!!

Stirlitz said:
Ken or anyone with real flying experience,
What is the visibility in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2WZT_Deyo
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I would estimate about 200-300 foot ceiling with visibility of about one half to three quarters statute mile visibility below the ceiling.

In short, near minimums for most ILS approaches.

The pilot in that video did an excellent job.

If you notice concurrent with solid visual contact with the runway approach lights, the radar altimeter alert sounded. Likely it was set to match the AGL minimum on ceilings. Further, when the runway VASI (the four lights in a line to the left of the runway) showed him above glideslope, which meant he was safe for the approach.

To me, that looked like a safe, well flown instrument approach.

Cheers,

Ken
 
tonybones2112 said:
Wombat, in WW2 we had 5 brothers in the US Navy, the Sullivans, on one ship. It was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine. War is hell, everyone involved were just doing their duty. All 5 brothers died, wiping out the dreams of one family.

Why was the, as is reported, the "entire" Polish govt. on one plane, and one reputed to be "old" and "obsolete"?

Why? I guess because more than one person besides myself shares a knowledge of past behavior and a track record by a certain govt. Many many people besides myself smells a rat. I have as many Russian friends as I do anything else, my comments are not derogating a people or a nation. The motive, unknown at the moment, that's for people more politically active to discern. Any US technician is there to look for empiric evidence, turn it over to the governing organs, and let them decide.

Most of the world know nothing of the names I cite but should be remembered: Patrice Lammumba, Dag Hammerskjold, Lev Rebet, and Stepan Bandera, and I hope that the names of those who died in this tragedy are not added to the list.

Bones
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I find this post out of line.

To use the example of the Sullivan brothers to frame a comparison to show conspiracy is simply unacceptable to me.

I would ask that we leave the honorable legacy of the Sullivans totally out of any conspiracy theorizing.

And for the record, I reject your efforts to make a conspiracy argument regarding this aviation mishap.

Ken
 
Ken Stallings said:
I find this post out of line.

To use the example of the Sullivan brothers to frame a comparison to show conspiracy is simply unacceptable to me.

I would ask that we leave the honorable legacy of the Sullivans totally out of any conspiracy theorizing.

And for the record, I reject your efforts to make a conspiracy argument regarding this aviation mishap.

Ken
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He only wants attention. Ignore him and he will get bored googling irrelevant facts.
 
My condolences to the Polish people as well. My home State of Illinois has a large Polish population. Our State Army National Guard has a partnership with the Polish Army to help them professionalize their NCO Corps on the US model instead of the Russian model. Illinois has had several exchanges of NCOs over the past few years.

I truly hope and pray that Poland comes out of the other side of this stronger and an even better government emerges for the people of Poland.
 
Chicago claims to have the largest Polish population outside of Poland. :) Devildog and I and others in our age group probably recall school classmates whose parents or grandparents were immigrants from Poland. Always a treat to be invited for lunch or supper at their houses. :d Poles are great folks whether they live in Chicago or Warsaw, and I hope they get through this crisis OK.
 
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