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Prepar3d v3

donnybalonny said:
The biggest problem with P3D is not the price IMHO

Its the constant upgrades.​
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Ditto that! I am blessed that the cost does not concern me but the constant changes & upgrades I find irritating. In my youth I loved to stay on the cutting edge of technology. Now I just want it to work! My free hours are precious few & I don't want to fill them up tweaking, configuring or just trying to get it to work. What I want & will pay handsomely for is stability.​
 
The price $$$ is not the issue. Paying for the same thing over and over is. As said above, the majority of the itens are FIX for bugged things. Paying for a working SLI profile? Don´t think so.
And yes, install all of it again is a problem too :biggrin-new:
 
One new feature should make many happy. They have developed a new "update system" that will no longer require a full re-install of future fixes.
 
Expanding a bit on my previous comment about the new update system, here are some comparisons:

Full installer = 10,245,970 KB
InstallClient = 104,350 KB <= this is the last update package

As you can see, updating will be much, much easier and faster now! :ernaehrung004:
 
two cents

As an P3 outsider I have been watching this LM program with interest over the past few years - but I have gotten FSX up to such a decent level of quality and performance (using DX10Fixer)AS Next,Softclouds, Orbx, etc., etc., that I have always been reluctant to purchase the Prepar3d offering - reading about others issues with 3rd party equipment and the fact that many of my quality products don't work or would need to be repurchased .. as far as I can see - that cost equation has not really changed with V3.0 except a clearer delineation on what a student is vs an individual =- and an increase in listed price to purchase.. As for VAS issues - I will watch this over the weeks and months ahead and see if there are any real benefits to be had.


I await some more proving video clips ... meantime back to FSX aceleration
 
Prepar3DV3 Black Hawk

"Region is Orbx NA NorCal, Airport is FlightBeam's KSFO HD, graphics settings are at the end of the video ... it is recorded in 4K and is using NI for 4X SGSS AA. Hardware is 5960X with two Titan X's in SLI performance mode."

Wow! 4k! I guess you'll need two Titan/980ti's to do that!

 
TuFun said:
"Region is Orbx NA NorCal, Airport is FlightBeam's KSFO HD, graphics settings are at the end of the video ... it is recorded in 4K and is using NI for 4X SGSS AA. Hardware is 5960X with two Titan X's in SLI performance mode."

Wow! 4k! I guess you'll need two Titan/980ti's to do that!

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Hi Tufun

"Region is Orbx NA NorCal"
So, is it possible to install Orbx products (meaning triple installers) on P3D v 3? don´t have this one, only global, europe and nz, few airports, but don´t want to wait months once more for Orbx updates. Apart having to pay again, this is the main reason not to upgrade to V3...

Regards
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Read all previous posts in related ORBX Forum and my main doubts remain...hope someone will be so kind and make matters clear to me. (posted this in Orbx Forum)


1-Do Orbx users have to download everything once more or there will be a patch/patches to previous triple installers?


2-Think not, but read about some of Orbx products beeing installed on Prepar3d, with triple installers, no problems found. Is this true? If so, how is it done?


Have jus a few of Orbx products, they make THE difference, and will not buy v3 until everything I own (Orbx) is updated. Waited months for triple installers, not wanting to do the same again, will keep 2.5 for the moment.
Thanks
 
I'm one of those guys who think FS9, FSX and P3D Academic were/are too inexpensive. I agree totally with other members who wonder why someone would complain about a $50 P3D Academic purchase then 5 minutes later pay what PMDG or A2A charge for their aircraft.

I was in e:mail contact with a couple of ACES Team members years ago and told them it was crazy for me to be able to buy FS9 the day it came out for $29.99. I think I paid $35 for FSX the day it came out. Now when you compare the levels of support and development by LM on P3D compared to MS I think Lockheed Martin has been brilliant.

The new Updater is worth the price of admission alone! Access to the Settings button from the start page was way up on my list and it's in V3.0.

I think may users forget what it was like dealing with Microsoft and their "You will buy it and you will like it" attitude or their "We've got your money and we will fix it when we get around to it" attitude. Remember MS's Beta is other developers Alpha! :sour:

CK
 
I think, at least for me, the fact that 2.5 is installed, works and looks great, all utilities are up to date with that version and nothing is broke is enough to forego any new version offerings. Yes I understand that it's an ongoing WIP sim and I need to keep doing the updates/upgrades to stay current, but that doesn't concern me. I know that's incomprehensible to some but I'm sure in time you'll get over it, lol.
 
When I started with Prepa3d 2.x, it was a refreshing change from FSX - much better performance out of the box and better graphics. Over time, for me personally, it became more of a tweakfest than FSX had been. After a couple of weeks of trying to get SLI to perform without artifacts on 2.5, I loaded up FSX Steam on a lark (had bought the license on one of those $5 sales) just to see how it ran. The answer: better than FSX Gold (much smoother, better frames) and in many respects better than P3D, which had acquired a family of stutters somewhere along the line. So for the moment, I'm enjoying FSX:SE - it's an easy environment to live in, comparatively inexpensive, no need to worry about incompatibilties, and no need to play word games with the licensing. I'm by no means decided against P3D 3.0 - I might try it out at some future point, depending on user reports - but I'm not feeling compelled to rush in today. My $.02.
 
I've had P3D and now almost exclusively flying FSX:SE simply because it runs better. As far as support, I don't see much evidence of it. In fact, I don't see much evidence of a lot of people on P3D forums...they seem to be deserted.

FSX has problems too, though...trying to install some freeware ORBX products today and got 'unhandled exceptions'.

Still, $59 ain't bad for a whole new sim when you compare the cost of aftermarket stuff.
 
n4gix said:
Expanding a bit on my previous comment about the new update system, here are some comparisons:

Full installer = 10,245,970 KB
InstallClient = 104,350 KB <= this is the last update package

As you can see, updating will be much, much easier and faster now! :ernaehrung004:
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Yep, and we did it 11 times this summer. I did scrape off the whole thing last night and put on the latest build and yes, that does take a while.
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Boomer said:
Looks like no upgrade, have to pay in full to get it.
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Disaster idea for me. They solved some of bugs (and Im sure some exists still like seasonal textures) and want money - full price for it again? Big problem of P3D is many incompatible versions also.

As it was before V3 = 64 bits and new sim..... (so promises only). It isnt a v3. its a something like 2.6v and jump for cash only. I dont need any Avatar, I have free ORBX Bob for walking, dont need FPS game for 199$.

I decided do not buy next P3D - no any discount for owners of V2. Maybe I will wait for V4 with full price again ;>.

In the next Year Dovetial will finish new sim based on FSX/Flight. I'll check for this. Bye bye Lockheed Martin....
 
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