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Prop textures, material and disppearing items
- Thread starter Shessi
- Start date
Hi Kelti,
Yes I understand about colours and clarity of props disks, prop disks look so good in Fs9. Unfortunately CFS2 deal with the alpha channels differently, and obviously do not look as good. It is great to have a choice of colour and clarity!
Unfortunately I can't deal with those ac that there are not source files for, as it would mean re-animating the ac again etc.
I'll await your reports!
Cheers
Shessi
Yes I understand about colours and clarity of props disks, prop disks look so good in Fs9. Unfortunately CFS2 deal with the alpha channels differently, and obviously do not look as good. It is great to have a choice of colour and clarity!
Unfortunately I can't deal with those ac that there are not source files for, as it would mean re-animating the ac again etc.
I'll await your reports!
Cheers
Shessi
kelticheart
Charter Member
A positive update....
....at least! The upgraded model FW200 Condor, you recently uploaded, works just fine.
Onto the next one.
Cheers!
KH
....at least! The upgraded model FW200 Condor, you recently uploaded, works just fine.
Onto the next one.
Cheers!
KH
kelticheart
Charter Member
Next one
Hi there,
I just checked your latest release of the He177 Greif. .....Houston, we have a problem.......
There isn't any texture file for the prop disc and what's displayed is simply the mdl disc.
It's easy to catch, since it's untextured and not round, but polygonal as you can see below. It can be seen very well even in the screenshots you included in the upload.
Since the same prop disc texture file worked very well for both the old GC's FW200 and the new one you uploaded, I tried adding a 4-blade "prop3.bmp" texture, as it is in the original GC's He177. No joy.
Can you figure it out?
Other than the above, it seems that the prop disc is correctly displayed with no gremlins, but I'd wait until we can try a proper prop disc texture.
Is there any particular model you'd like me to check out next?
Cheers!
KH
Hi there,
I just checked your latest release of the He177 Greif. .....Houston, we have a problem.......
There isn't any texture file for the prop disc and what's displayed is simply the mdl disc.
It's easy to catch, since it's untextured and not round, but polygonal as you can see below. It can be seen very well even in the screenshots you included in the upload.
Since the same prop disc texture file worked very well for both the old GC's FW200 and the new one you uploaded, I tried adding a 4-blade "prop3.bmp" texture, as it is in the original GC's He177. No joy.
Can you figure it out?Other than the above, it seems that the prop disc is correctly displayed with no gremlins, but I'd wait until we can try a proper prop disc texture.
Is there any particular model you'd like me to check out next?
Cheers!
KH
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kelticheart
Charter Member
To The B24 Guy
Hi The B24 Guy!
Your work on Wolfi's SB2C mdl seems to be working fine as you can see below. Nice job!
Can you do the same trick on the other LOD's now? I am asking you this because, as soon as one zooms out just one step from the below, landing gear, prop blades and spinner lose their texturing and they are all displayed plain black.
Cheers!
KH
Hi The B24 Guy!
Your work on Wolfi's SB2C mdl seems to be working fine as you can see below. Nice job!
Can you do the same trick on the other LOD's now? I am asking you this because, as soon as one zooms out just one step from the below, landing gear, prop blades and spinner lose their texturing and they are all displayed plain black.
Cheers!
KH
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The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Hi Kelticheart,
Will do. Wanted your expert eye before going any further.
Got it done. I will work on the others.
Rami may want to update Wolfi's package.
Regards,
B24Guy
Will do. Wanted your expert eye before going any further.
Got it done. I will work on the others.
Rami may want to update Wolfi's package.
Regards,
B24Guy
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The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Here is the Peashooter,
Regards,
B24Guy
Regards,
B24Guy
kelticheart
Charter Member
Quadruple wow!!!
I am deeply ashamed for asking you this, but......this fix can only be done on Wolfi's models or is there any other model you'd be willing to look at?
Cheers!
KH
HUGE THANKS, THE B24 GUY!
We are all in debt with you, first the stock model overhauls, than all of the work you did improving other models!!
We are all in debt with you, first the stock model overhauls, than all of the work you did improving other models!!
I am deeply ashamed for asking you this, but......this fix can only be done on Wolfi's models or is there any other model you'd be willing to look at?
Cheers!
KH
The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Hi Kelticheart,
If you point them out I will be happy to see if I can fix them.
With the weather getting cold I will have more time for indoor things.
Working on the Stuka now.
Regards,
B24Guy
If you point them out I will be happy to see if I can fix them.
With the weather getting cold I will have more time for indoor things.
Working on the Stuka now.
Regards,
B24Guy
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Hi Kelti,
The textures for the prop disk are in the mdl itself, and is coloured material. That is why the Fw200 prop disk does not work, as this mdl has textured prop disk material
Yes, the sca'd mdl could be altered for another colour, and no it can't be read by MDLmat and therefore changed, as it is of a very old format.
Unfortunately I do not have the source file for the He177. Yes, it can be done, but that would be a completely new project, which may be done at some stage in the next millenium......
Cheers
Shessi
The textures for the prop disk are in the mdl itself, and is coloured material. That is why the Fw200 prop disk does not work, as this mdl has textured prop disk material
Yes, the sca'd mdl could be altered for another colour, and no it can't be read by MDLmat and therefore changed, as it is of a very old format.
Unfortunately I do not have the source file for the He177. Yes, it can be done, but that would be a completely new project, which may be done at some stage in the next millenium......
Cheers
Shessi
kelticheart
Charter Member
Yeees....
Please excuse my ignorance: but wouldn't it be easier to simply map a texture for the prop disc in the He177 mdl?
From what I learned about textures, there's obviously no texture mapping for the prop discs. Besides, their polygonal circumference looks like everything but realistic. A true shame for such a beautifully detailed aircraft.
Cheers!
KH
Hi Kelti,
The textures for the prop disk are in the mdl itself, and is coloured material. That is why the Fw200 prop disk does not work, as this mdl has textured prop disk material
Yes, the sca'd mdl could be altered for another colour, and no it can't be read by MDLmat and therefore changed, as it is of a very old format.
Unfortunately I do not have the source file for the He177. Yes, it can be done, but that would be a completely new project, which may be done at some stage in the next millenium......
Cheers
Shessi
Please excuse my ignorance: but wouldn't it be easier to simply map a texture for the prop disc in the He177 mdl?
From what I learned about textures, there's obviously no texture mapping for the prop discs. Besides, their polygonal circumference looks like everything but realistic. A true shame for such a beautifully detailed aircraft.
Cheers!
KH
kelticheart
Charter Member
Thank you The B24 Guy!
If Rami can't edit old uploads to accommodate your upgrades, they should be at least packed up and uploaded, least they get lost with the forum new threads advance.
The first group that comes to my mind is the YAS Spitfire collection I just uploaded, including YAS Spitfire MkIa V.1 (DW-K) and YAS Paddy Finucane's Spitfire F MkVb (UD-W), already present in SOH's library.
I will point out more if and when you'll be able to fix them. Be prepared, there are a lot of planes affected by the prop disc gremlin out there!
Cheers!
KH
Hi Kelti,
Unfortunately to map a texture you need the source file, which I don't have. I suppose it could be done via scasm, but it would be a very complicated job and be done by a true scasm guru, and I'm not that person.
No, as bad as it is, it's going to have to do, until me or someone else rips the mdl and then re-makes it, with all the 'bells and whistles' on. I've just got so much on the go at the moment, that it will have to be in the to-do pile.
Cheers
Shessi
Unfortunately to map a texture you need the source file, which I don't have. I suppose it could be done via scasm, but it would be a very complicated job and be done by a true scasm guru, and I'm not that person.
No, as bad as it is, it's going to have to do, until me or someone else rips the mdl and then re-makes it, with all the 'bells and whistles' on. I've just got so much on the go at the moment, that it will have to be in the to-do pile.
Cheers
Shessi
The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Hi Kelticheart,
I will download the Spits and we will go from there.
Regards,
B24Guy
I will download the Spits and we will go from there.
Regards,
B24Guy
kelticheart
Charter Member
Hi The B24 Guy!
I was so enthusiastic for your results that I failed to check all of them, plus the other models from Wolfi's. Besides, this is the busiest time of the year for me, when I get my house ready for the cold season.
As you can see the P-26 and the Ju87B Stuka came out perfect. Unfortunately, the SB2C looks fine at close distance, as soon as one steps back texturing for the prop blades, spinner and landing gear still disappear as in your first beta release.
Then I checked Wolfi's Ki-44 Shoki II and Ki-27 Nate. They both need your magical touch, and I suspect the remaining Ki-57 Topsy is in the same shape. It's up to you where and when you want to put your wrenches first!
Cheers!
KH
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kelticheart
Charter Member
Not worth it!
Gotcha!
I did not realise you hadn't the source files. Ripping someone else's mdl also poses some serious copyright questions. Such a pain is not worth it!
After all, the He177 Greif was not as common in WWII skies as Bf109's or FW190's were!
I'll keep checking your uploads and let you know if I find something else that needs a fix.
Cheers!
KH
Gotcha!
I did not realise you hadn't the source files. Ripping someone else's mdl also poses some serious copyright questions. Such a pain is not worth it!
After all, the He177 Greif was not as common in WWII skies as Bf109's or FW190's were!
I'll keep checking your uploads and let you know if I find something else that needs a fix.
Cheers!
KH
Kelti,
Right then, I have re-done the Manchester Mk1a, Me410A1 and the Wellington X, as there is nothing else at the moment I'll upload them. As I said they will be in a pack, I will explain that it's only if you suffer the dreaded 'Kelties'...ha ha ha!, that you need these mdls.
In all seriousness I want them to be correct as well, so now I know, and others have taken on-board this issue, hopefully we've all wiser. In the future if you find anything of mine that is like that, please don't hesitate and PM to tell me.
ciao amico mio
Shessi
Right then, I have re-done the Manchester Mk1a, Me410A1 and the Wellington X, as there is nothing else at the moment I'll upload them. As I said they will be in a pack, I will explain that it's only if you suffer the dreaded 'Kelties'...ha ha ha!
, that you need these mdls.In all seriousness I want them to be correct as well, so now I know, and others have taken on-board this issue, hopefully we've all wiser. In the future if you find anything of mine that is like that, please don't hesitate and PM to tell me.
ciao amico mio
Shessi
The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Hi Kelticheart,
I will have another look at the SB2C.
I did about half of the Spits this weekend.
I will have a look at the Ki-44 and Ki-27 also.
Thanks for the heads up,
B24Guy
I will have another look at the SB2C.
I did about half of the Spits this weekend.
I will have a look at the Ki-44 and Ki-27 also.
Thanks for the heads up,
B24Guy
The B24 Guy
SOH-CM-2022
Hi Kelticheart,
I don't know why you are having a prob. with the SB2C.
I checked and all the LOD's that have a prop. are textured.
The only thing is that the main LOD has a different materal than the lesser LOD's.
I try and change the lesser LOD's and see if that fixes it.
Regards,
B24Guy
I don't know why you are having a prob. with the SB2C.
I checked and all the LOD's that have a prop. are textured.
The only thing is that the main LOD has a different materal than the lesser LOD's.
I try and change the lesser LOD's and see if that fixes it.
Regards,
B24Guy