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Quai's & D'Attomo's Fiat CR.32 conversion pack uploaded!!!
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dvslats
Charter Member
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Alrighty Then,
Here's a Dave's classic air file and aircraft .cfg.
I would recommend getting some altitude, then airspeed to test these. The controls are responsive enough that some practice is required.
In the end though you may like these.
The aircraft config will need the correct entries added under "[fltsim.0]". Just copy and paste over from Kh and Gius's original. Ok?
Just the above mentioned only.
Remember, out of airspeed, out of luck...
Cheerz, Dave
Alrighty Then,
Here's a Dave's classic air file and aircraft .cfg.
I would recommend getting some altitude, then airspeed to test these. The controls are responsive enough that some practice is required.
In the end though you may like these.
The aircraft config will need the correct entries added under "[fltsim.0]". Just copy and paste over from Kh and Gius's original. Ok?
Just the above mentioned only.
Remember, out of airspeed, out of luck...
Cheerz, Dave
kelticheart
Charter Member
Alrighty Then,
Here's a Dave's classic air file and aircraft .cfg.
I would recommend getting some altitude, then airspeed to test these. The controls are responsive enough that some practice is required.
In the end though you may like these.
The aircraft config will need the correct entries added under "[fltsim.0]". Just copy and paste over from Kh and Gius's original. Ok?
Just the above mentioned only.
Remember, out of airspeed, out of luck...
Cheerz, Dave
Hi Dave,
does this airfile include the 'hot rodded' engine changes that I sent you last week?
This CR.32 is a 'Ter' version, which means third series or third production batch. In this series a particular effort was devoted to cut down overall weight and other than this there were no other significant changes in the aircraft.
The official Regia Aeronautica records rate the Fiat CR.32 Ter top speed at 356 kmh (221.21 mph). IS4G's original Flight Model fell quite short of this performance. Her V-12, liquid-cooled Fiat A30 RA Bis powerplant was rated at a little more than 600 hp and it ran on a special 94 hi-octane fuel mixture obtained by mixing 55% gasoline, 22% benzole and 23% alcohol, which made the CR.32 somewhat difficult to service, therefore not too popular for exporting purposes.
When you found out glitches in the first airfile I modified, I did my best to get the 'Chirri' reach her historical top speed by increasing engine displacement, compression rate and supercharger gains in the airfile you sent me.
This, at a rather low altitude, between 3 and 4,000', the usual CFS2 dogfight height. Considering biplanes were incapable of reaching higher altitudes due to lack of oxygen breathing equipment for their pilots, it seemed to me quite close to reality.
I also added a variable pitch propeller, but let's keep in mind it's a concession, since the blade pitch could only be changed on the ground and not during flight.
In case you didn't include my engine changes, I'll upload an update pack asking Rami to kindly edit the posted CR.32 with it.
Cheers!
KH
dvslats
Charter Member
Ummm, yes and no. In order for the whole thing to come together, contact points, torquing issue, and landing I scavenged from many different files.
This file will give you a real snappy flier. And good contact points at rest.
The speed does match the data you sent me.
In the end it comes down to the cyber pilot. Personally, I liked these, but they're to my tastes if you know what I mean...
Try them and if they do not agree with you, delete is just a click away. Don't worry about me being offended. It's a choice.
We have all been there.
As I've stated before, "I'm no air file guru", but am getting pretty good at scavenging.
Till Later Stef,
Dave
kelticheart
Charter Member
Rog!
Roger that, Dave!
If the speed is there then everything is fine!
Cheers!
Stef
Ummm, yes and no. In order for the whole thing to come together, contact points, torquing issue, and landing I scavenged from many different files.
This file will give you a real snappy flier. And good contact points at rest.
The speed does match the data you sent me.
In the end it comes down to the cyber pilot. Personally, I liked these, but they're to my tastes if you know what I mean...
Try them and if they do not agree with you, delete is just a click away. Don't worry about me being offended. It's a choice.
We have all been there.
As I've stated before, "I'm no air file guru", but am getting pretty good at scavenging.
Till Later Stef,
Dave
Roger that, Dave!
If the speed is there then everything is fine!
Cheers!
Stef
kelticheart
Charter Member
Oh, dear....
Dave, I think I spoke too soon.
I tried yesterday the FM you posted here and I found the CR.32 behaviour a bit strange. I fly with full realism, hardest flight model and manual mixture settings.
First of all, the aircraft doesn't sit still on the runway but she tends to trigger shacking. At idling on the ground, I have to keep the brakes on, otherwise she starts moving forward.
During flight, she 'snaps' into whichever attitude I fly her instead of displaying a more natural, fluid motion. I am not talking about controls responsiveness or rolling rate, when I move the control bar, even slightly, the aircraft behaves like positioning an image on a document with the 'snap to grid' option turned on. I think this is the best way to describe how the CR.32 responds to my controls.
I never saw it before and it looks quite unnatural to me.
The worse happened when I tried some aerobatic manoeuvres. I cannot tighten my turns anymore without stalling immediately and, when I tried split-S manoeuvres she went into unrecoverable flat spins and crashed. More or less like Maverick's 'Top Gun' engine flameout accident, whose consequence caused the loss of his R.I.O.
I tried the same split-S three times in a row, increasing my altitude each time. I lost control every time and I was unable to regain control of the plane in spite of the height. The flat spin occurred exactly as soon as I pulled on my elevators to exit the upside down attitude and complete the manoeuvre, with immediate stall and sharp loss of airspeed.
Each time I enter these sudden stalls, she feels as someone pulled a virtual emergency handbrake and there's nothing I can do to regain control. The classic countermeasure of pointing the nose down and reversing rudder, opposite to the spin direction, actually worsens the situation. She simply quits responding to the stick and rudder controls.
Providing I did not experience on my pc the blow outs reported with the very first FM derived from IS4G's Fiat CR.32 I uploaded, I don't know what to say, other than I prefer the previous FM you did. The one you sent me through the mail, which I increased engine performance to reach historical top speed.
I am thinking to make a pack which will include both versions, leaving people free to pick and choose whichever they like best. How about it?
Cheers!
KH
Dave, I think I spoke too soon.
I tried yesterday the FM you posted here and I found the CR.32 behaviour a bit strange. I fly with full realism, hardest flight model and manual mixture settings.
First of all, the aircraft doesn't sit still on the runway but she tends to trigger shacking. At idling on the ground, I have to keep the brakes on, otherwise she starts moving forward.
During flight, she 'snaps' into whichever attitude I fly her instead of displaying a more natural, fluid motion. I am not talking about controls responsiveness or rolling rate, when I move the control bar, even slightly, the aircraft behaves like positioning an image on a document with the 'snap to grid' option turned on. I think this is the best way to describe how the CR.32 responds to my controls.
I never saw it before and it looks quite unnatural to me.
The worse happened when I tried some aerobatic manoeuvres. I cannot tighten my turns anymore without stalling immediately and, when I tried split-S manoeuvres she went into unrecoverable flat spins and crashed. More or less like Maverick's 'Top Gun' engine flameout accident, whose consequence caused the loss of his R.I.O.
I tried the same split-S three times in a row, increasing my altitude each time. I lost control every time and I was unable to regain control of the plane in spite of the height. The flat spin occurred exactly as soon as I pulled on my elevators to exit the upside down attitude and complete the manoeuvre, with immediate stall and sharp loss of airspeed.
Each time I enter these sudden stalls, she feels as someone pulled a virtual emergency handbrake and there's nothing I can do to regain control. The classic countermeasure of pointing the nose down and reversing rudder, opposite to the spin direction, actually worsens the situation. She simply quits responding to the stick and rudder controls.
Providing I did not experience on my pc the blow outs reported with the very first FM derived from IS4G's Fiat CR.32 I uploaded, I don't know what to say, other than I prefer the previous FM you did. The one you sent me through the mail, which I increased engine performance to reach historical top speed.
I am thinking to make a pack which will include both versions, leaving people free to pick and choose whichever they like best. How about it?
Cheers!
KH
dvslats
Charter Member
Hi Stef,
That sounds good to me. Possibly someone with more experience with air files can cook something up.
Either way it sounds like a plan.
Till Later,
Dave