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Question for this Spitfire...

Rami

Rami

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To all,

I'm looking to see if anyone has created or modified a .dp file for this Spitfire Mk. XI

http://www.simviation.com/cfs2aircraft122.htm

The readme essentially describes it as "A Mk. IX with no ammunition."

I wish to use this for a Merlin-powered recon aircraft that you'll be protecting on a particular mission over Germany.

My thought to perhaps use a .dp file from Paul Rebuffat's Spitfire Mk. IX series and modify it to fit this model, deleting the guns, of course. (With no .dp, CFS2 uses the "default .dp" which gives you guns!)

Is this possible? Has someone done this?
 
Hi Rami,
No reason why not? Although if there are any breaking parts or special effects then the DP may/will not match up. You could take any Mk9 Spit DP, take the guns out of the DP and that should do well.

Just remove the [GUNSTATIONS] entry, and you have no guns. Save and remove .cdp file (it is sim created and will be created when sim starts again)

[GUNSTATIONS]
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx

Give me a shout if I can help!?

Cheers Shessi
 
Shessi,

The .cfg file appears to be in FS9:

[fltsim.0]
title=Supermarine Spitfire Mk. XI
sim=Spit11
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
KB_checklists=Spit11_check
kb_reference=Spit11_ref
atc_airline=WARBIRD
atc_flight_number=MkXI
ui_manufacturer=SUPERMARINE
ui_type=Spitfire Mk XI
ui_variation=Mrk 11
description=The Spitfire Mk XI was an unarmed photorecco version of the Spit9

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn
startup=fx_engstrt_jenny

[SMOKESYSTEM] //vert, long, lat
smoke.0= 0.00, -1.6, -1.70, fx_B17Contrail
smoke.1= 0.00, -1.6, 1.70, fx_B17Contrail
//smoke.0= 0.00, -1.6, -1.70, fx_contrail_l
//smoke.1= 0.00, -1.6, 1.70, fx_contrail_l

[LIGHTS]
panel=0,-0.4,2.20,fx_SeafExhaust1
//#1=beacon #2=strobe #3=nav #10=reheat
//#4=cockpit #5=landing #6=taxi
//#7=recog #8=wing #9=logo
//---------------originals----------------------------
light.0=5, -1.50, -18.5, 0.0, fx_navred
light.1=5, -1.50, 18.5, 0.0, fx_navgre
light.2=5, -10.50, 0.00, -1.80, fx_beacon
light.3=5, -25.70, 0.00, 1.60, fx_beacon
light.4=5, 0.10, -6.70, -1.50, fx_landing
light.5=5, 0.10, 6.70, -1.50, fx_landing

/---------- ExhaustFlames--------uses wing/taxi/logo
//index,type, long, lat, vert, fx_filename
light.6=8, 2, -1.40, 1.1, fx_V12_IDLE_port
light.7=8, 2, 1.40, 1.1, fx_V12_IDLE_starb
light.8=6, 2, -1.46, 1.1, fx_V12_MAX_port
light.9=6, 2, 1.46, 1.1, fx_V12_MAX_starb
light.10=9, 2, -1.52, 1.1, fx_V12_Exhaust
light.11=9, 2, 1.52, 1.1, fx_V12_Exhaust
light.12=2, -1.6, -18.70, 0.00, fx_WingtipVortex
light.13=2, -1.6, 18.70, 0.00, fx_WingtipVortex

//------------ Guns ----------------------uses strobe
//not used in recco spitfire

//light.15=2, 6.50, 7.00, -3.0, Fx_Wing_guns
//light.16=2, 6.50, -7.00, -3.0, Fx_Wing_guns

[General]
performance=Empty weight: 5,575\nGrossweight: 7,930 lb \nPower: RR.Merlin 1,575 hp (1,175 kW)\nMax speed : 417 mph at 24,200 ft\nNormal range: 2301 miles\nClimb rate: 4,360 ft\/min \nService ceiling: 44,000 ft\nFlight Model By: A.F.Scrub\nJuly 2007
Category=airplane

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
empty_weight_CG_position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
empty_weight=6390.000000
empty_weight_roll_MOI=5871.000000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI=7343.000000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI=11231.000000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI=0.000000
max_gross_weight=9585.000000
max_number_of_stations=50
station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
[fuel]
Center1=0.400000,0.000000,1.000000,114.400000,0.000000
LeftMain=0.000000,-6.000000,-1.000000,16.800000,0.000000
RightMain=0.000000,6.000000,-1.000000,16.800000,0.000000
External1=-0.200000,-2.650000,-0.600000,50.000000,0.000000
External2=-0.200000,2.650000,-0.600000,50.000000,0.000000
fuel_type=1.000000
number_of_tank_selectors=1
electric_pump=1
[airplane_geometry]
wing_area=242.000000
wing_span=36.833333
wing_root_chord=6.583333
wing_dihedral=4.998779
wing_incidence=1.999512
wing_twist=0.000000
oswald_efficiency_factor=0.775700
wing_winglets_flag=0
wing_sweep=0.000000
wing_pos_apex_lon=0.000000
wing_pos_apex_vert=0.000000
htail_area=28.000000
htail_span=14.750000
htail_pos_lon=-16.666667
htail_pos_vert=0.000000
htail_incidence=-0.192261
htail_sweep=0.000000
vtail_area=13.000000
vtail_span=4.110961
vtail_sweep=0.000000
vtail_pos_lon=-17.250000
vtail_pos_vert=5.500000
elevator_area=18.700000
aileron_area=22.600000
rudder_area=10.100000
elevator_up_limit=28.000000
elevator_down_limit=23.000000
aileron_up_limit=26.000000
aileron_down_limit=19.000000
rudder_limit=28.500000
elevator_trim_limit=15.000000
spoiler_limit=45
spoilerons_available=1
aileron_to_spoileron_gain=0.000000
auto_spoiler_available=0
spoiler_extension_time=5.000000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=0.000000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0.000000
positive_g_limit_flaps_up=7.863248
positive_g_limit_flaps_down=7.863248
negative_g_limit_flaps_up=-6.794872
negative_g_limit_flaps_down=-6.794872

[contact_points]
point.0=1.000000,-18.583333,0.000000,-2.833333,1574.803150,0.000000,0.554614,43.380000,0.622687,2.500000,0.678053,5.000000,5.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.1=1.000000,3.333333,-5.000000,-6.666667,1574.803150,1.000000,0.554614,0.000000,0.505546,2.500000,0.452892,5.000000,5.000000,2.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.2=1.000000,3.333333,5.000000,-6.666667,1574.803150,2.000000,0.554614,0.000000,0.505546,2.500000,0.452892,5.000000,5.000000,3.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.3=2.000000,0.416667,-17.083333,-1.666667,2175.542876,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,5.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.4=2.000000,0.416667,17.083333,-1.666667,2175.542876,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,6.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.5=2.000000,-19.583333,0.000000,-1.666667,2175.542876,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,9.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.6=2.000000,7.666667,0.000000,-3.500000,1574.803150,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,4.000000,0.000000,0.000000
static_pitch=10.519409
static_cg_height=5.657052
gear_system_type=1
[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=0.518815
parking_brake=1
[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=0
pct_throttle_limit=0.000000
flap_limit_power=0.000000
flap_limit_idle=0.000000
[Flaps.0]
type=1
span-outboard=0.500000
extending-time=5.000000
system_type=1
flaps-position.0=0.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.1=9.234743,0.000000
flaps-position.2=18.469486,0.000000
flaps-position.3=27.704228,0.000000
[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=0
Engine.0=8.333333,0.000000,0.000000
fuel_flow_scalar=1.000000
min_throttle_limit=0.000000
[piston_engine]
cylinder_displacement=137.500000
compression_ratio=7.000000
number_of_cylinders=12
max_rated_rpm=3500.000000
max_rated_hp=1850.000000
fuel_metering_type=2
cooling_type=1
normalized_starter_torque=0.035000
turbocharged=1
max_design_mp=60.999999
min_design_mp=12.000000
critical_altitude=44200.000000
emergency_boost_type=3
emergency_boost_mp_offset=5.110000
emergency_boost_gain_offset=0.906531
fuel_air_auto_mixture=0
auto_ignition=0
max_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.000000
idle_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.000000
max_rpm_friction_scalar=1.000000
idle_rpm_friction_scalar=1.000000
[propeller]
propeller_type=0
propeller_diameter=10.416700
propeller_blades=4
propeller_moi=28.004372
beta_max=65.000000
beta_min=15.000000
min_gov_rpm=450.000000
prop_tc=0.010000
gear_reduction_ratio=1.896000
fixed_pitch_beta=20.000000
low_speed_theory_limit=80.000000
prop_sync_available=0
prop_deice_available=0
prop_feathering_available=0
prop_auto_feathering_available=0
min_rpm_for_feather=70.000000
beta_feather=88.500000
power_absorbed_cf=0.900000
defeathering_accumulators_available=0
prop_reverse_available=0.000000
minimum_on_ground_beta=1.000000
minimum_reverse_beta=-14.000000
[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=90.000000
full_flaps_stall_speed=72.000000
cruise_speed=250.000000
max_indicated_speed=396.000000
[keyboard_response]
elevator=350.000000,500.000000
aileron=450.000000,1000.000000
rudder=200.000000,1000.000000
[Views]
eyepoint=-8.791626,0.000000,2.037709
[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=0
default_vertical_speed=700.000000
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=0
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0
autothrottle_max_rpm=90.000000
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000000
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000
[hydraulic_system]
electric_pumps=0
engine_map=1,0,0,0
normal_pressure=6.930556
[stall_warning]
type=1
stick_shaker=0
[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1
[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0
[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0=1,0
[pitot_static]
pitot_heat=1.000000
[vacuum_system]
max_pressure=5.150000
vacuum_type=1
electric_backup_pressure=4.900000
engine_map=1,0,0,0
[pneumatic_system]
max_pressure=0.000000
bleed_air_scalar=1.000000
[deice_system]
structural_deice_type=0

Does this need to be converted?

Also, how would I know if there are breaking parts?
 
Hi Rami,
The DP will use some of the info you've got there but really it's just a damage profile or map of the model where damage will occur and any results after a pre-determined amount of damage (including any breaking parts, pilot killed, smoke, fires etc etc).
The DP also includes what weapons are carried [PAYLOADS] and where. There is also some other [MISC DATA] which is used in missions and on-line combat to set certain parameters.

A quick look at your ac.cfg, in CFS2 you would use the info for the exhaust flames to 'mount' exhaust flames in the DP. Otherwise little else, CFS2 also uses an ac.cfg, so that's where you want to use most of the info.

As said your best bet is to get another CFS2 Spit (mk9/14) DP, remove guns, and you'll have a reasonably good-to-go DP. I've just dl'd that MkXI and ofcourse it has no DP to play with :isadizzy:. So you don't have a lot of choice, because without looking into the mdl you won't know if there are any breaking parts etc etc to take into account for CFS2!!

Shessi
 
Reply...

Yikes...It looks like the model lacks breaking parts. :crybaby:

All things considered, I am going to use the Griffon-engined model, the Spitfire Mk. XIX.

It is an even nicer model, with a .dp file included, and without gun stations.

In short, no assembly required! :applause:

Seeing as how you fly the mission in December of 1944, I don't think it will make much of a difference.
 
Try These

Hi Rami ~

I took a little time and modded up some "starting point" files for you to play with.

Please let me know how they work, kay ?

SC
:kilroy:
 
Rami said:
Yikes...It looks like the model lacks breaking parts. :crybaby:

All things considered, I am going to use the Griffon-engined model, the Spitfire Mk. XIX.

It is an even nicer model, with a .dp file included, and without gun stations.

In short, no assembly required! :applause:

Seeing as how you fly the mission in December of 1944, I don't think it will make much of a difference.
Click to expand...

The Mk. XIX is based in the Mk14 Paul Redeffat(is de MK14 with .mdl modifiyed) I sink if somebody can reedit the skin and use the Invisibily texture for the Mk14´s cannons, All have a spitfire Mk.XIX breaking parts!.
 
sc7500 said:
Hi Rami ~

I took a little time and modded up some "starting point" files for you to play with.

Please let me know how they work, kay ?

SC
:kilroy:
Click to expand...

SC,

I tried the .cfg and the .dp

The .dp has the drop tank about 3 feet below and 1 foot in front of the belly of the Spitfire. The aircraft.cfg had the viewpoint right behind the propeller, though I managed to fix that by replacing the original. All in all, great work!
 
Argh !

Those dang slipper tanks get me EVERY TIME !! :costumes:

Glad it worked out after some tweakage, Rami ~ Fly On !
SC
:kilroy:
 
Rami said:
The readme essentially describes it as "A Mk. IX with no ammunition."
Click to expand...

Wrong! MkIXs did not have a retractable tail wheel, but MkVIIIs did. The XI also featured a larger oil tank under the nose.;)

I'll shut up now.
 
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