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RAZBAM Delta Dagger released!
- Thread starter Boomer
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Dag
Guest
Hello there,
I was fortunate enough to be able to provide Ron with a couple of paint jobs for this F-102 project. The 112th TFG one with the black spine and tail plus the silver painted one from the Californian ANG (196th FIS).
I now see that Ron published my psd originals for the F-102 from the 112th as the repaint kit for this project. I have the following recommendation to painters using it:
-I have different panel lines on the rear fuselage (body02) and tail (tail) compared to Ron's stuff so make sure you copy body02_bump.dds and tail_bump.dds from the "texture.112TFG" folder to the texture folder you are creating. That way the panel lines on the diffuse maps will line up with the ones on the bump maps (also called normal maps).
-Custom specular maps (the dds textures that control diffuse shine and light falloff) is required. Look at the dds textures (that contains the term "spec" in the file name) that Ron and I did and you'll notice a different approach to this. Ron uses a darker version of the diffuse (main texture map) for this type of texture and I use plain grey layers, completely desaturated. See what we did and decide how you want it and paint away.
-I use a darker more reflective canopy transparency compared to Ron so again, if you like to use that, the file may be found in the "texture.112TFG" folder. The file is named "tarnsparencies_t.dds".
Good luck
I was fortunate enough to be able to provide Ron with a couple of paint jobs for this F-102 project. The 112th TFG one with the black spine and tail plus the silver painted one from the Californian ANG (196th FIS).
I now see that Ron published my psd originals for the F-102 from the 112th as the repaint kit for this project. I have the following recommendation to painters using it:
-I have different panel lines on the rear fuselage (body02) and tail (tail) compared to Ron's stuff so make sure you copy body02_bump.dds and tail_bump.dds from the "texture.112TFG" folder to the texture folder you are creating. That way the panel lines on the diffuse maps will line up with the ones on the bump maps (also called normal maps).
-Custom specular maps (the dds textures that control diffuse shine and light falloff) is required. Look at the dds textures (that contains the term "spec" in the file name) that Ron and I did and you'll notice a different approach to this. Ron uses a darker version of the diffuse (main texture map) for this type of texture and I use plain grey layers, completely desaturated. See what we did and decide how you want it and paint away.
-I use a darker more reflective canopy transparency compared to Ron so again, if you like to use that, the file may be found in the "texture.112TFG" folder. The file is named "tarnsparencies_t.dds".
Good luck
thunder100
Charter Member 2010
Hi
Is there a 2D panel?
Are the gauges modelled into VC or real gauge files?
thanks
Roland
Is there a 2D panel?
Are the gauges modelled into VC or real gauge files?
thanks
Roland
Hi Roland,
no 2D Panel. The gauges are modelled.
EDIT:
Just made an evening flight and i really love her. IMO a must buy for every fan of classic military fighter jets
thunder100
Charter Member 2010
Then I stay with my F-106 (no 102 I know) from Alpha
Beside modelling&FDE--> the 2 D gauges become a criteria for me.I have many ported over planes to FSX(which rarely get an FSX update) and biggest issue is usually the gauges.With Carenado's Seneca I repaired 3 other planes to be OK in FSX
But thats just my point
Roland
Boomer
Charter Member 2015
Quixoticish
Charter Member
I can't say I've ever heard anyone prefer the older 2d style gauges over the (in my opinion anyway) much better looking, smoother, less fps hungry 3d ones?
lol, darned "portovers", lol.
Hey Boomer, I found something interesting in the copy at Razbam and thought I'd post it here for a correction:
During the early 1960s, the F-102A was gradually replaced in the ADC by the McDonnell F-101B Voodoo and the Convair F-106 Delta Dart. By mid-1961, the number of F-102As in service with the ADC was down to 221. However, by the end of 1969, with the exception of a squadron maintained in Iceland, all ADC F-102As had been transferred to the Air National Guard. The F-102As stationed in the Pacific had been withdrawn in December of 1969
The only F-102As still in service with the USAF at the beginning of 1970 were all stationed overseas.
I worked in the Egress Shop at Perrin AFB (North Texas) from 1968 til 1970 and was assigned to the 4780th Air Defense Wing (this was an Active Duty Unit, not ANG). We flew F-102A's assigned to ADC through late 1970. The Base closed for good in 1971. We had close to 100 aircraft with some part of the 3555th FTW and the rest were Camo ADC birds.
thunder100
Charter Member 2010
No the 3D modelled ones are fine.But still a full 2D to be there is my point
But its just a personal preference
Roland
Of course some teams will still add a 2d panel from time to time, but with the TrackIR system quite prevalent and another, similar system making headway into the sim world. . . .not to mention the amazing detail that will only continue to flourish in VC cockpits from here on, the 2d panel is going away, slow but sure. It may take time, but you'll see less and less of the 2d panel as time and innovations in modeling move ahead.
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Dag
Guest
Important update to PA ANG textures and repaint kit!
Hi,
Before release of the RAZBAM F-102 I was alerted by a forum member at SOH to the fact that the USAF titles on the intakes/fuselage had the wrong distance between "U.S." and "AIR FORCE". I corrected this on my textures (the CA ANG had the correct ones from day one) and sent updates to RAZBAM on the 112th PA ANG one. Now it seems that these updates escaped the developer/publisher completely. Furthermore, my original PSD files were used as a repaint kit, something I had no knowledge of. As a result, the repaint kit has the wrong titles as well.
I am very sorry for this, had I only known...
Install instuctions:
Path to the dds files in the update zip:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL\texture.112TFG folder.
Copy/paste and replace body01.dds and body02.dds in this texture folder and you are good.
Path to the psd files in the update zip:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\RAZBAM\F-102 files\paint kit\
Note! If you have already started a repaint, and used body01.psd and body02.psd, backup these and copy over the layers you have modified to the new psds for these files.
In the above path you'll find a file called paint kit.zip. This contains the repaint kit. Replace the body01.psd and body02.psd in the original zip with the ones in THIS below zip and your USAF titles will be okay.
July 29th 2009, Dag the Painter
Link to the update below:
<!-- m -->http://www.dagrs.net/files/update_repai ... 112TFG.zip<!-- m -->
<DL id=profile2171 class=postprofile><DD></DD></DL>Note: I made custom bump maps for my two paint jobs. The way the file structure is now, with fallback in all texture folders but the ones contained in the "RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL" folder, RAZBAM's bumps will be "read" by the models. A solution to this will be to paste in tail_bump.dds and body02_bump.dds from the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL\texture.112TFG folder in all texture folders in the package named texture.112TFG and texture.196FIS. There's the DT, MS CL and MS DT folders to look into. Sorry again for the fuss...
Hi,
Before release of the RAZBAM F-102 I was alerted by a forum member at SOH to the fact that the USAF titles on the intakes/fuselage had the wrong distance between "U.S." and "AIR FORCE". I corrected this on my textures (the CA ANG had the correct ones from day one) and sent updates to RAZBAM on the 112th PA ANG one. Now it seems that these updates escaped the developer/publisher completely. Furthermore, my original PSD files were used as a repaint kit, something I had no knowledge of. As a result, the repaint kit has the wrong titles as well.
I am very sorry for this, had I only known...
Install instuctions:
Path to the dds files in the update zip:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL\texture.112TFG folder.
Copy/paste and replace body01.dds and body02.dds in this texture folder and you are good.
Path to the psd files in the update zip:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\RAZBAM\F-102 files\paint kit\
Note! If you have already started a repaint, and used body01.psd and body02.psd, backup these and copy over the layers you have modified to the new psds for these files.
In the above path you'll find a file called paint kit.zip. This contains the repaint kit. Replace the body01.psd and body02.psd in the original zip with the ones in THIS below zip and your USAF titles will be okay.
July 29th 2009, Dag the Painter
Link to the update below:
<!-- m -->http://www.dagrs.net/files/update_repai ... 112TFG.zip<!-- m -->
<DL id=profile2171 class=postprofile><DD></DD></DL>Note: I made custom bump maps for my two paint jobs. The way the file structure is now, with fallback in all texture folders but the ones contained in the "RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL" folder, RAZBAM's bumps will be "read" by the models. A solution to this will be to paste in tail_bump.dds and body02_bump.dds from the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\RAZBAM F-102 Delta Dagger CL\texture.112TFG folder in all texture folders in the package named texture.112TFG and texture.196FIS. There's the DT, MS CL and MS DT folders to look into. Sorry again for the fuss...
Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
Makes me want to fly again.....:mixedsmi:
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EgoR64
Guest
Yep, She sure looks like fun !!Carrier ops in her too !!
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