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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

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RAZBAM SB2C-5 Helldiver

Dang that sure looks nice. Count me in on this one! I hope it comes with a 'clean' paint for the real Helldiver here:icon_lol:
 
First thing I'm going to do is work on adding "Blue Curmudgeon" in white lettering on the cowling in honor of an old Helldiver pilot!
 
Outstanding job on this one! As a fan of WWII aircraft modeling, really impressive job. Only two small critiques from me though. Double check the props. There is something very wrong with them. Im not sure how popular cuffed props are, but beside that, there is an inverse curv on the front side. This should be on the back side. Props typically have a shallow curv on them and that curv should be pointing too the pilot. Also, Navy birds were LOVINGLY cared for. The level of dirt on the texture may be find for a Marine Helldiver, that was stuck on an island, and found some 20 years after it was lost... =)

Here is a good photo of an SB2C's props and you can see the direction of the curv, and the overall shape of the cuffed paddle props.
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Overall, GREAT work and really looking forward too it! Sorry about the critique. The props are a thing for me.
 
Pilot is still too small ....:running: :)

Brilliant level of modelling - outstanding, really. This plane is by no means my cup of tea, and while I'm not likely to be a customer, I wanted to offer a sincere comment to say how genuinely impressed I am. Bravo Ron et al.

If your Skyray indeed is coming at some point, than this SB2C's level of quality portends some seriously impressive enjoyment of the Ford ....

:medals:

dl
 
It wouldn't hurt for you guys to let me fly this thing before you release it.....

Cheers: T
 
Gibbage said:
Also, Navy birds were LOVINGLY cared for. The level of dirt on the texture may be fine for a Marine Helldiver, that was stuck on an island, and found some 20 years after it was lost... =)
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Actually it looks about right to me. Navy aircraft are lovingly maintained when operational commitments allow, such as when you're in port or on a peacetime Mediterranean cruise. When you're aboard USS Essex (per markings on the Razbam plane) and fighting your way towards Japan, the flight schedule will only allow for some spot-paint corrosion control and essential cleaning - canopy glass, cockpit interior, fluid leaks, etc. Ordnance guys and fuelers scuff up the wings, paint gets chipped around access panels. I know this is a pet peeve of our own Helldiver, as he remembers those well-polished birds from his time in the fleet.
 
Not saying your wrong, but as I heard it, there was a LOT of time between deployments and action, even in wartime. Being a boat, it takes a long time to get from point A to point B. Weeks to even months can go buy, and there is little else to do then take care of the aircraft. After general maintenence is done, the only thing left to do was polish the birds! Even in wartime, there could be weeks between the action. I dont suggest factory fresh, but there is a lot of dirt on that thing that could be wiped off during some of the down time ;)
 
Julhelm said:
Well I made the textures to depict it being in action, not between deployments.
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I think whatever people think how it should look like, you did an absolutly excellent job.
The easiest solution - since there are several liveries planned anyhow, I guess - is to offer a shiny version as well. That way everyone could pick the favorite version as it pleases him. Ahhh, and don't forget a paint kit :)

I'm looking forward to that like nothing in recent times.

Cheers,
Mark
 
Ya. Its all a matter of choice. Thats why I include the dirt laters in my paint kits. Allows the customer to pick how dirty they want there birds ;)
 
It's all too easy for over-weather a model. See this in plastic model building all the time.
Some develop the "Verlinden Syndrome", and slather dirt and washes all over the place. Chipped paint really gets overdone, especially on armor models. Yeah, we all have seen the pics of dirty, abused planes, but they were not all like that. Even the most beat-up planes I work on in RL have very little paint chipping.
Next time you see heavy earthmoving equipment, take a close(if possible)look at the weathering, and see how much bare metal areas are really showing.
Actually, most weathering is caused by trying to REMOVE weathering. Dirt, exhaust stains, fluids, can get rubbed into the paint, or scuff paint, etc.
Then there is the whole other world of SCALE. Some bits of dirt, or a chipped area, on a model would scale up, like 3 feet across in real life. Remember Airfix Rivets??
 
Piglet said:
It's all too easy for over-weather a model. See this in plastic model building all the time.
Some develop the "Verlinden Syndrome", and slather dirt and washes all over the place. Chipped paint really gets overdone, especially on armor models. Yeah, we all have seen the pics of dirty, abused planes, but they were not all like that. Even the most beat-up planes I work on in RL have very little paint chipping.
Next time you see heavy earthmoving equipment, take a close(if possible)look at the weathering, and see how much bare metal areas are really showing.
Actually, most weathering is caused by trying to REMOVE weathering. Dirt, exhaust stains, fluids, can get rubbed into the paint, or scuff paint, etc.
Then there is the whole other world of SCALE. Some bits of dirt, or a chipped area, on a model would scale up, like 3 feet across in real life. Remember Airfix Rivets??
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+1
Weathering in video games really became an end in itself. The funny thing, some confuse that with realism. If it doesn't look as if it had been situated in a Russian lake for the past 6 decades it's not realistic. :icon_lol:
 
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