Reference help on Grumman F3F-2
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That's all i could find as well, Barry.... 
According to Airliners.net there are still quite a few F3F's at US museums ( and even one at Duxford). During the development of our F-86 i got in touch with a photographer there ( a contact link is always provided) and he proved to be extremely helpfull to send me photos i was particularly looking for. Usually aircraft photographers are avid flightsimmers too.
Why not give it shot. As we say overhere ' No is what you have, Yes is what you can get' ;-)
http://www.airliners.net/search/pho...limit=15&sid=e8fd240808b6e83dd1248557e8e6571b
cheers,
jan
According to Airliners.net there are still quite a few F3F's at US museums ( and even one at Duxford). During the development of our F-86 i got in touch with a photographer there ( a contact link is always provided) and he proved to be extremely helpfull to send me photos i was particularly looking for. Usually aircraft photographers are avid flightsimmers too.
Why not give it shot. As we say overhere ' No is what you have, Yes is what you can get' ;-)
http://www.airliners.net/search/pho...limit=15&sid=e8fd240808b6e83dd1248557e8e6571b
cheers,
jan
mvg3d
Charter Member
National Naval Aviation Museum
The Only existing Grumman F3F biplane fighter : 1750 Radford Blvd., NAS Pensacola, Pensacola, FL 32508
and
http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/permanent_exhibits/the_golden_age/grumman_f3f-2.html
http://www.mucheswarbirds.com/F3Fart.html
http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/attractions/aircraft-exhibits/item/?item=f3f
The Only existing Grumman F3F biplane fighter : 1750 Radford Blvd., NAS Pensacola, Pensacola, FL 32508
and
http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/permanent_exhibits/the_golden_age/grumman_f3f-2.html
http://www.mucheswarbirds.com/F3Fart.html
http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/attractions/aircraft-exhibits/item/?item=f3f
Check the clip on this page
http://thepublichistorian.net/2012/10/16/plane-week-grumman-f3f-flying-barrel/
Good luck
http://thepublichistorian.net/2012/10/16/plane-week-grumman-f3f-flying-barrel/
Good luck
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
Hi everybody.
Currently slaving away on the VC for the new Barrel.
I desperately need clear cockpit shots.
In particular the electrical panels on the right side wall.
I have some but the placards are indistinct.
Can anyone help please?
Thanks.
Baz,
I think that if you ask Navy chief as he has access to the Naval Museum and might be able to take some photos of what you need.
Couldn't hurt to ask. He has access to some Naval Technical Publications and my find a F-3 Pub with complete illustrated cockpit pictures.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/member.php?23-Navy-Chief
Here a photos of a couple of restored F3F-2s, with references to their whereabouts.
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeIndex.php?Designer=Grumman,FamilySN=810
Maybe one the museums would be willing to share some good cockpit shots?
Cheers,
Mark
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeIndex.php?Designer=Grumman,FamilySN=810
Maybe one the museums would be willing to share some good cockpit shots?
Cheers,
Mark
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photos/N20FG:48960:1.html
this one comes to San Diego every year for the Wings over Gillespie airshow - you might contact the owners and see what they say - or, if they are attending that show this year.
the show isnt until June unfortunately - but maybe the pics would help with an update post-release..?
visit Air Group One for information on the upcoming show or to become a member and contribute to warbird acquisition, maintenance, and exhibition....
http://ag1caf.org/
this one comes to San Diego every year for the Wings over Gillespie airshow - you might contact the owners and see what they say - or, if they are attending that show this year.
the show isnt until June unfortunately - but maybe the pics would help with an update post-release..?
visit Air Group One for information on the upcoming show or to become a member and contribute to warbird acquisition, maintenance, and exhibition....
http://ag1caf.org/
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2025
The owner and restorer of the nicest F3F flying today, Chris Prevost, might be able to be contacted through his company "Vintage Aircraft", to obtain photos of the cockpit of his F3F (N20RW): http://www.vintageaircraft.com/
Here is their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/VintageAircraftCompany
Chris Prevost restored the aircraft after he bought it from the Lone Star Flight Museum, and it was advertised for sale for a time, here: http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!grumman-f3f-2/cekk
There are some cockpit photo sets here, but again the quality is too low to clearly see much of the text items:
http://www.milavnarc.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detais_in_color_photo_set.html
http://www.milavnarc.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detail_photo_set.html
Here is their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/VintageAircraftCompany
Chris Prevost restored the aircraft after he bought it from the Lone Star Flight Museum, and it was advertised for sale for a time, here: http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!grumman-f3f-2/cekk
There are some cockpit photo sets here, but again the quality is too low to clearly see much of the text items:
http://www.milavnarc.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detais_in_color_photo_set.html
http://www.milavnarc.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detail_photo_set.html
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2025
A photo from the Vintage Aircraft Facebook page of Chris Prevost's F3F, though again it doesn't help much, especially the details on the right-hand side:
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2025
It must be acknowledged that all of the flight-worthy F3F's are reproductions, using original identities. One of these is even a reproduction of the G-32, the two-seat version, which is owned by the Friedkin family. It is on public display at the Valle, Arizona location of the Planes of Fame Air Museum (has not flown in a number of years). If you are able to get in contact with the Valle, AZ location, they might be willing to snap some shots of the cockpit. http://planesoffame.org/index.php?page=valle-az-location
This is the aircraft: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Planes of fame valle F3F
There aren't any F3F's based at Duxford, though a couple of the US-based examples were shipped over and flown at the Duxford-based 2001 Flying Legends air show - those being the G-32 N100TF (pictured in the link above) and the F3F N20FG, which were both owned by the Friedkin family at the time (a collection sometimes also referred to as "Comanche Warbirds" and "Chino Warbirds").
The F3F N20FG used to be often displayed at the Chino, CA Planes of Fame location, when owned by the Friedkins, but was purchased by Jim Slattery several years ago, of San Diego. The aircraft still flies and is a regular Planes of Fame airshow participant, but it no longer is based at the Planes of Fame Chino museum.
Kermit Weeks has one, which is also one of the flight-worthy reproductions (N26KW), at his Fantasy of Flight, but it hasn't flown in many years. If only this Fantasy of Flight video was a lot higher resolution, the photos would help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkObaTKa4cs
There are only two F3F's that are flying/active today, those being N20FG (Jim Slattery) and N20RW (Chis Prevost), with both being based (privately) in California - N20FG in San Diego at Gillespie Field, and N20RW in Sonoma at Sonoma Valley/Schellville Airport.
There is some (again quite low res) cockpit photography of Chris Prevost's F3F in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IndAsKBNa8
This is the aircraft: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Planes of fame valle F3F
There aren't any F3F's based at Duxford, though a couple of the US-based examples were shipped over and flown at the Duxford-based 2001 Flying Legends air show - those being the G-32 N100TF (pictured in the link above) and the F3F N20FG, which were both owned by the Friedkin family at the time (a collection sometimes also referred to as "Comanche Warbirds" and "Chino Warbirds").
The F3F N20FG used to be often displayed at the Chino, CA Planes of Fame location, when owned by the Friedkins, but was purchased by Jim Slattery several years ago, of San Diego. The aircraft still flies and is a regular Planes of Fame airshow participant, but it no longer is based at the Planes of Fame Chino museum.
Kermit Weeks has one, which is also one of the flight-worthy reproductions (N26KW), at his Fantasy of Flight, but it hasn't flown in many years. If only this Fantasy of Flight video was a lot higher resolution, the photos would help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkObaTKa4cs
There are only two F3F's that are flying/active today, those being N20FG (Jim Slattery) and N20RW (Chis Prevost), with both being based (privately) in California - N20FG in San Diego at Gillespie Field, and N20RW in Sonoma at Sonoma Valley/Schellville Airport.
There is some (again quite low res) cockpit photography of Chris Prevost's F3F in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IndAsKBNa8
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By some odd coincidence, I happened to check out this thread about thirty minutes before going to the Naval Museum on vacation.
I took a bunch of pics and can post them when I get home on Sunday. I'm hoping the pics were of good enough quality...I took them with the flash off. If I had seen the thread early enough to give it a good read, I'd have taken some flash pics as well.
Pensacola's F3F was recovered from Lake Michigan IIRC. I don't know what they had to do to repair the cockpit.
I took a bunch of pics and can post them when I get home on Sunday. I'm hoping the pics were of good enough quality...I took them with the flash off. If I had seen the thread early enough to give it a good read, I'd have taken some flash pics as well.
Pensacola's F3F was recovered from Lake Michigan IIRC. I don't know what they had to do to repair the cockpit.