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Request

I'm going to do two more wing tanks for use with UT's textures. One for the Silver/polished metal and one for the Red.

Should I add any gloss to the material? What would help to shine it up?

Update: Ok all the models are finished and waiting compiling. Wayland, UT they are headed your way for evals once complete. I've remapped the model for UTs textures. The bare metal one wasn't lining up. I'll get some screen shots as soon as they are finished.

As a note they have some glossiness and specular level to the material. Not alot, but more then it had before.
 
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Hey wayland,

Can you send me your final version. I want to get it all compiled together for upload. I figure your final version will be more complete then mine. I tend to play too much with things.
 
La-11

Roger that, I'll kick it off to you sometime today. I'll send with both panels. I'm sure there will be other refinements that you will want to add, but it it works very well as is. I will run through the mods this morning and make sure they are complete before I kick it off. I don't want to do a vast job in a half-vast way.

Again, my heartfelt thanks to everyone who helped, and expressed interest in this project. It was a needed aircraft for completion of significant aircraft represented in CFS2.


Steve
 
Wing Tanks are finished...

Here are a few quick screenshots.

LA-11GrSB.jpgLA-11Red.jpg
Green and Sky Blue, Red

LA-11Silver.jpgLA-11Gry.jpg
Bare Metal/Silver, Gray

UT,
I don't think the red one is red enough. It looks pale-ish. Maybe its just because your Red texture for the LA-11 is a Crimson Red. The Green and Sky Blue match perfectly. I could have made them with a little bit more shine. They are on the way to both of you.
 
La-11 Request

Thank you, I'll install them tronight and take her up for a spin. I normally don't hang tanks unless the mission calls for them, so this will give me some much-needed practice.

Looks like we have another weather system moving in out of the northwest, Hope the wifi doesn't fail again tonight.

Steve
 
RE: droptanks

Got it John, & agree the tone of the cherry red is off. Will rework & send you an updated texture.

You've probably noticed I avoided doing repaints for the "ko" model textures. It's because the "Ru" model seems to use the "ko" textures for some internal textures. This can get messy when trying to fit coloured "ko" repaints in the same texture folder. Better to split them & abandon the "ko" model altogether. It's better to package all using just the "Ru" model, but leaving the silver grey "ko" textures in the file (for the internal parts).:dizzy:
 
UncleTgt said:
Got it John, & agree the tone of the cherry red is off. Will rework & send you an updated texture.

You've probably noticed I avoided doing repaints for the "ko" model textures. It's because the "Ru" model seems to use the "ko" textures for some internal textures. This can get messy when trying to fit coloured "ko" repaints in the same texture folder. Better to split them & abandon the "ko" model altogether. It's better to package all using just the "Ru" model, but leaving the silver grey "ko" textures in the file (for the internal parts).:dizzy:
Click to expand...

I agree on the models. I had to do alot of renaming to get it all to work. other then the texture there seems to be no difference in the model.
 
Test pilot needed...

UT has sent me a new texture. So we can correct that.

Ok I think we need one more test pilot before we ship this one out.

Here are a few things that I've noticed.

--The fuel selector switches don't work in the current setep. Not sure if its the Airfile or CFG. It goes to "both" or "off" and thats it. I haven't tried to play with it yet.

--Also the panel needs to go to the right a bit. The gunsight isn't centered.

--Maybe bring the view down as well. the guns aren't lined up.

--I'm getting almost no rudder. Maybe its just me. I have been flying alot of WWI birds lately.


Question...
Do you want the tanks to be selectable or do you just want them on the plane?

Oh one last thing. I'm going to rename the tanks.
 
La-11 Request

Hi, John

I don't think I ever flew a long enough flight to need to switch tanks. I did have some trouble with getting the landing gear to retract, but I think that was a dirty install, I re-nstalled and it worked fine.

I assumed the gunsight was purposely off center, like in a Bf-109, especially with a aux ring and bead next to it.

I didn't really notice the guns being off, but most of my firing was done at under 100 yards, seemed to be very effective.

I noticed rudder effectiveness falls off at higher speeds,above 280 Kts. I usually cut the throttle by about 15-20% and it worked fine again.

Might as well have selectable tanks, it would be convenient. After looking at some drawings (unsure how accurate the drawings were) it looked like the wingtips went 6-8 inches into the tanks. Not sure how to get a clean jettison, were they actually droppable in flight? The drawing arrangement made me think that they were a ground crew attach-detach operation. I'll see if I can find those drawings again, and forward them to you.

Yes, please get another test pilot. One opinion, especially mine, isn't enough. I haven't been back in flight sim that long, less than 1 year, you need at least one experienced pilot, hopefully with experience at modding, to really wring this bird out.

Steve

P.S.: Here is a link to a drawing showing how deep into the tanks the wingtip goes. Again I have no idea how accurate this is.

http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/russia/la-11.gif

Also a link to a photo showing the tanks mounted.

http://xplanes.free.fr/lavo/images/lavotchkine_la11_134_01.jpg

http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/russia/la-11.gif
 
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Wayland,
You've done an outstanding job. I think it would be nice to have someone who hasn't stared at all of this for the last few weeks. Just a fresh outlook is all. Otherwise if everyone is in agreement then we can run with what we have.

I believe the tanks were fixed. once on they were on. but in order to use them in CFS2 I think they have to be able to fall off. not sure realy. Tango tried to explain it to me a few years ago but i didn't quite get it. I actually wanted to make the LA-9M with the wing tanks. Thats why I jumped at this like I did.
 
Hi, John

I've got to say I was running out of ideas for testing. The last few flights I'd fire up and sit there with my mind a total blank (not unusual for me anyway).

I've actually taken a couple days off from active flying to do some additional research on the early Cold War and found there were numerous incidents starting as early as late August of '45. Also starting to compile a list of aircraft in service during the 1945 to the late 50's, to check availability for CFS2. Not sure about a cut off date, but have to stop somewhere. I figure the cutoff at about the time the Sidewinder/AA-2 missile came into service, because of the inability to use guided air-to-air missiles in CFS2.

Got to check on available scenery packages also. Mainly Europe, the Baltic and the China coast, but would be nice to find something for the Turkish-Iranian strip.

BTW I found a absolutely WONDERFUL map resource. The University of Texas Perry-Castenada Library has a huge map collection including operational and tactical pilotage charts for most of the world. I could easily spend days just going through that, and they are free to download.

Oh well bck to the mundane world, is 7 degrees F here this morning, need to do my morning check of the area to see what froze this time.

Steve

Link to Perry-Castenada map library:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/
 
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La-11 Request

Oops, didn't mean to blow up your reputation for being omniscent.

Being an archive rat, I have a special affinity for maps, historical and otherwise. I grab and save everything I can find, map-wise.

There's a University library in California That has nearly the entire Soviet Union west of the Urals in original Red Army issue maps, but you have to have a student ID there to access it. Talk about major frustration! Grrrrr!:banghead:

Maybe if I can scare up some extra dosh, I can enroll in an online history class there and get access that way. I WILL find a way!

Steve
 
La-11 Request

Hmmm. Apparently the Red army maps aren't digitised, so you actually have to go into the physical library on campus to access them. To quote Pooh, "Oh, Bother!". Not that I think that much of Berkley anyway. There are other sources online, so there IS a way.

Steve
 
I made a new panel Windows 7 proved. Uncle TGT has it! If you wish it, send me a message with your E-Mail.

Cheers

Pepe
 
La-11 Request

Yes, Please!

PM on it's way.

Thank youfor your time and effort on this project.

Steve
 
La-11

Got it and it looks and works great! Thank you very much for the time and effort you spent on this.

Steve
 
Whats left?

Yeah I need to wrap up my end.

so for the finished model what is left to do?

-Is the panel all set. I think we had a couple guage issues.
-Model, RU or KO. I believe you said the KO.
-Tanks are finished with all of the textures. Do you want me to rename them?
-Airfile and CFG. need the tanks fixed what else.
 
John,

I thought Pepe did a nice job on the airfile & panels.
The only gauge issue was the fuel tank selector, but it might be Soviet doctrine for the pilot to not have too much choice ... :hatchet:

I never tried it for long range to see if the tanks actually worked properly & gave you the legs, but IIRC Pepe did put the wing tip tanks into the airfile.

Your readme for the tanks was fine, no need to do any more with them in my opinion.

All the paints are based on the ru model, which seems identical to the ko model. I chose the ru model because some of the internal textures are from parts of the ko texture sheet, so it allows you to have silver grey undercarriage bays, even though the exterior is green/sky. This is not so easy to do the other way round!

Scrolling back I notice Steve has some comments regarding gunsights & lining up the sight with the bullet stream, but that's all.
 
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