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Retro Carrier AI experiment - SH-3D plane guard on Nimitz
- Thread starter delta_lima
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I thnk the best, and likely only workable AI model for a 50's vintage pedro for the RN is the FSX converted Pepper AI-S-51- I should smack a RN EDSG&Sky on it- Im using that one with the 50's Essex, Indy's posing as ...blurg...brain stopped. What was the enlarged Independence CVL...Saipan class? Ended up as the first LPH...
On a related note- and I'l have to take a screen-lost it- I found a Bell model61 in the back of the file library at hover control:http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin...Development/Open_Source_Aircraft_-_GMAX&img=9
Nice flier-VC isnt finished- displays well- its a project, but looks allright- a novel 50's machine...
On a related note- and I'l have to take a screen-lost it- I found a Bell model61 in the back of the file library at hover control:http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin...Development/Open_Source_Aircraft_-_GMAX&img=9
Nice flier-VC isnt finished- displays well- its a project, but looks allright- a novel 50's machine...
Railrunner130
Charter Member
Geech. I haven't seen a C-5 fly that low since their SOLL II days. That was a scarey sight... Four C-5s in line abreast formation at low level.
Dragonfly3
Her ya go, DeltaLima, every one. Its a quick and dirty, file off the old marks, slap on some new- had to hand draw titles 'cause of the angle-FSrepaint need a reinstall-so I used paint. The colors off, should be RAF Blue-Grey. One skin each for the AI and Flyable. Good enough for a 20 minute repaint on the laptop.
The HOS1's are the stock AI in AICarrier and Flyable, grinding along in the fog off Avalon. And I found the screen of the Model-61.
More later, when I have a bit more time.
TallyHo!
edit: where in the heck did I get S-52? The zip should be titled S-51...you know what I mean.
Her ya go, DeltaLima, every one. Its a quick and dirty, file off the old marks, slap on some new- had to hand draw titles 'cause of the angle-FSrepaint need a reinstall-so I used paint. The colors off, should be RAF Blue-Grey. One skin each for the AI and Flyable. Good enough for a 20 minute repaint on the laptop.
The HOS1's are the stock AI in AICarrier and Flyable, grinding along in the fog off Avalon. And I found the screen of the Model-61.
More later, when I have a bit more time.
TallyHo!
edit: where in the heck did I get S-52? The zip should be titled S-51...you know what I mean.
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
Hello Laz et al ...
Laz - you're a prince!! I only had a minute to post a screen I took earlier - before I knew you had posted the RN paint, so I didn't get a chance to try her yet - but have downloaded and will try at next FSX boot up.
I did install the S51 in USN colours, as per yours and expat's suggestion ... 10/10!! Perfect for 50's USN period flying off the Leyte. I promised I'd post a shot - though it's kind of redundant given you already did ... but here goes anyway ... position's off - need to work on that ....
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Say ... that two-tone RN 533 scheme looks nice ... if you even thought about that scheme, that would take us into the 60s (at least visually, if not the right model). I've never seen an S51 in the later colours - but it's sure pretty. Would work a bit nicer with the Ark IV, etc - as a stand-in for a more appropriate Wessex. Just a thought.
Anyway - muchos thanks, mates.
dl
Laz - you're a prince!! I only had a minute to post a screen I took earlier - before I knew you had posted the RN paint, so I didn't get a chance to try her yet - but have downloaded and will try at next FSX boot up.
I did install the S51 in USN colours, as per yours and expat's suggestion ... 10/10!! Perfect for 50's USN period flying off the Leyte. I promised I'd post a shot - though it's kind of redundant given you already did ... but here goes anyway ... position's off - need to work on that ....
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Say ... that two-tone RN 533 scheme looks nice ... if you even thought about that scheme, that would take us into the 60s (at least visually, if not the right model). I've never seen an S51 in the later colours - but it's sure pretty. Would work a bit nicer with the Ark IV, etc - as a stand-in for a more appropriate Wessex. Just a thought.
Anyway - muchos thanks, mates.
dl
My pleasure,Sir. Yup; I'll have to see about grinding out a couple of good ones, I like anything in grey and sky. Some of the RAF machines were finished in grey-green disruptive-hmm. This repaint here-well- it was fast, no model veiwer, so I'll get back to that when I figure out why FSrepaint is scrambling textures...grrrr. I like it, but abacus makes me nuts, sometimes!
Yeah- so far, it looks like if the animation isn't coded in to the model, you've no rotation. I tried adding a prop rotation line to the sim config , I think it crashed the sim. One other helio I did find digging about the hard drive that does work as a 'boat' is a NH-90 that is part of the I'll de Yue AI/scenery package - which is hosted at FS shipyards-Has the Marine National LPD's Thunder and Mistral, and a Horizon class frigate-nice stuff all- the frigate is also very close to the RN's new type 45, as they were a joint program for most of the development cycle untioll the RN withdrew and went at it alone. Hmmm. There is a ALAT Gazelle too. There may be a Lynx and a Panther, too- I'll look into that. At any rate, those have the animation coded in to the model-so a few more to mess about with...No -55,58-or-61-yet.
edit: Had a look through-the NH90 is the only one set up as a boat. The Lynx, Panther and Gazelle are as scenery objects. I've no idea if those can be separated from the BGL and set up as boats, if the ani's would work ect...
edit: Had a look through-the NH90 is the only one set up as a boat. The Lynx, Panther and Gazelle are as scenery objects. I've no idea if those can be separated from the BGL and set up as boats, if the ani's would work ect...
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
Awesome Laz!!!
Many thanks - will also use for RCN - at that distance, isignia is close enough to give you the basic idea.
cheers,
dl
Many thanks - will also use for RCN - at that distance, isignia is close enough to give you the basic idea.
cheers,
dl
NickB
Charter Member
If you wanted a late 1950's plane guard for Ark Royal or a US carrier, would Alphasim's S-55 work?
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No, not as a boat object, for reasons noted above. Nice screens. Love the Whirly. Do put in the helitrim gauge-big help, that is... The Dragonfly served exclusively till '55, when the Whirlwind was taken into service, and hung about for years after that, so it'll do. I should knock up a repaint for ARK as Bonnie, eh? Green deck, new deck lines and pennant number..bout as close as well get. I hear the lads at RFN have a Light Fleet in the saucepan- so Warrior/Maggie some day...
I'll have to do a version3 with an RCN machine, as the 533 machine still has a wee spot of sky aft of the rotor pylon that I'm still looking for, and LIMAMIKE933 machine needs its paintwork adjusted to RAF blue-grey. The photo looks like sea blue,but thats achromatic film at work. I've some color prints from a visit to Yeovilton in 83 of their example,dusty, it was, stuffed in the back of the storage hangar, but blue-grey.
Do we want a RN Seathing type SAR paint for that NH90?
Over.
I'll have to do a version3 with an RCN machine, as the 533 machine still has a wee spot of sky aft of the rotor pylon that I'm still looking for, and LIMAMIKE933 machine needs its paintwork adjusted to RAF blue-grey. The photo looks like sea blue,but thats achromatic film at work. I've some color prints from a visit to Yeovilton in 83 of their example,dusty, it was, stuffed in the back of the storage hangar, but blue-grey.
Do we want a RN Seathing type SAR paint for that NH90?
Over.
delta_lima
Charter Member 2015
Hey Laz - this was a real birthday treat!!! Will definately add the grey/sky RN 533 - she's pretty!
You've been very generous with your time - I know I'm thrilled with these "little" but oh so special treats - makes all the difference in creating an exciting immersive experience.
My wish list - and of course, that's all it is - insofar as carrier / helo paints would be thus:
S51 (RCN) - sounds like you had it on your list.
VN Seaking (RN & RCN) - would be a decent substitute for the Wessex, and would allow the R09 to have a 80's/90's plane guard that's not too far fetched.
HMS Victorious - a non-camo postwar scheme would be great - would certain tide us through until an Eagle shows up, and in her straight-deck configuration, perfect for RN FAA Korean War ops. That's a big ask, I know, and maybe not quite how Flying Stations envisioned their Vic being used - but .... would be cool!
HMS Ark Royal IV - RCN. Bizarre you mentioned it - I've always imagined an alternate Canadian Naval scenario. The Maggie got retired, but not before she was replaced by a "Confederation" class carrier, built on plans from the Ark Royal ... so my head was exactly where you were going.
As stated - this is just me dreaming ...
The USN is pretty well covered now for plane guard - 3 generations worth of helos .... too cool!
dl
You've been very generous with your time - I know I'm thrilled with these "little" but oh so special treats - makes all the difference in creating an exciting immersive experience.
My wish list - and of course, that's all it is - insofar as carrier / helo paints would be thus:
S51 (RCN) - sounds like you had it on your list.
VN Seaking (RN & RCN) - would be a decent substitute for the Wessex, and would allow the R09 to have a 80's/90's plane guard that's not too far fetched.
HMS Victorious - a non-camo postwar scheme would be great - would certain tide us through until an Eagle shows up, and in her straight-deck configuration, perfect for RN FAA Korean War ops. That's a big ask, I know, and maybe not quite how Flying Stations envisioned their Vic being used - but .... would be cool!
HMS Ark Royal IV - RCN. Bizarre you mentioned it - I've always imagined an alternate Canadian Naval scenario. The Maggie got retired, but not before she was replaced by a "Confederation" class carrier, built on plans from the Ark Royal ... so my head was exactly where you were going.
As stated - this is just me dreaming ...
The USN is pretty well covered now for plane guard - 3 generations worth of helos .... too cool!
dl
spatialpro
SOH-CM-2025
Leander and RFA?
A little OT, but where did those Leander frigates and RFA tanker come from??
Many thanks
Andy
A little OT, but where did those Leander frigates and RFA tanker come from??
Many thanks
Andy
leander_class_frigates.zip - Flight sim .com-
HMS Fearless / HMS Intrepid -Classic british Flightsim
The Rover class-I found that in a FS9 scenery from Transload Virtual Military from the FS2002/2004 days, saved it and converted it to AI. Its not landable, though. Looks the business, though. If some one could attract Gaffers attention for permissions, I could zip it up and post it here...
You're quite welcome;DL. Happy Dominion Day- Been intending to do those up for a while, anyways, so its good to get a push. Yeah, us hooked cheeseheads need a boat, eh? A repainted Ark would work nicely- so if some one comes on a good, high rez plan veiw of BonnieV's deck, post it here. More on that latter. A late war Victorious is rumored to be in the pipieline, somewhere, I recall. The US DOD made offers of various Essex class's, Hellcats, Bears, Skyhawks ect. Bit more man-power intensive than the light fleet, and the material condition of the ships was considered poor- the same offers were made to the RN and RAN,and declined for the same reasons.
Ta!
HMS Fearless / HMS Intrepid -Classic british Flightsim
The Rover class-I found that in a FS9 scenery from Transload Virtual Military from the FS2002/2004 days, saved it and converted it to AI. Its not landable, though. Looks the business, though. If some one could attract Gaffers attention for permissions, I could zip it up and post it here...
You're quite welcome;DL. Happy Dominion Day- Been intending to do those up for a while, anyways, so its good to get a push. Yeah, us hooked cheeseheads need a boat, eh? A repainted Ark would work nicely- so if some one comes on a good, high rez plan veiw of BonnieV's deck, post it here. More on that latter. A late war Victorious is rumored to be in the pipieline, somewhere, I recall. The US DOD made offers of various Essex class's, Hellcats, Bears, Skyhawks ect. Bit more man-power intensive than the light fleet, and the material condition of the ships was considered poor- the same offers were made to the RN and RAN,and declined for the same reasons.
Ta!
Those rumours are very true!
And even WIP with 2 Dido Class Cruisers as escort it looks very nice, circa 1944 without the cam, no need to paint the 1940 version. The 1944 version has some differences in the model with radars etc
SkippyBing
Charter Member
It's as if you think I don't have the plans for a Colossus Class carrier on my hard drive...
HMCS?? CV-23......
Hi, Skippy. I reckon you do. There is mention at RFN, as well. I hope you guy's will forgive me..ahem. Blame Delta Lima, it's his fault. The Bonnie was a Bonny ship, but a bit tight "aboat" the hips,eh? An Audacious class CV-23 is not wildly improbable, either Africa or Audacious. So; I require permissions and what not, A name. Ships crest would be cool...easy repaint. 3 hours with in sin check...
Deltalima-its your thread, so you do the polling or what ever for the details, I'll do the file clean up. You get to do the first arrested landing.
Hi, Skippy. I reckon you do. There is mention at RFN, as well. I hope you guy's will forgive me..ahem. Blame Delta Lima, it's his fault. The Bonnie was a Bonny ship, but a bit tight "aboat" the hips,eh? An Audacious class CV-23 is not wildly improbable, either Africa or Audacious. So; I require permissions and what not, A name. Ships crest would be cool...easy repaint. 3 hours with in sin check...
Deltalima-its your thread, so you do the polling or what ever for the details, I'll do the file clean up. You get to do the first arrested landing.