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Russian ATC track UFO

K

kilo delta

Charter Member 2015
Interesting video!

"Air traffic control radar in Yakutsk, Sakha (Yakutia) Republic, Russia is tracking a UFO. Radar system gives it speed of 9800 km/h and altitude of 19780 meters. Object is also changing direction instantly. Nice detail I noted is that, as the object has not sent any ident signal to the secondary surveillance radar, or SSR, the system has tagged the object with default number 00000."
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ad_1275161744


BTW..that's over 6,000mph at almost 65,000ft
 
Or the "Aurora" craft that seems to be causing commotion in the UFO world lately. I guess when I am old and gray I may get the answer, lol.
 
It's a standard physics problem. An object traveling at 6,000 miles per hour that "instantly" changes course, incurs gargantuan g-forces. To put into comparison, a SAM is generally rated between 15 and 25G load limit before it structurally fails. They travel around Mach 3 to 4, or about 2,000 to 2,500 miles per hour.

So, to even match the maneuvering parameters of a SAM, the UFO would have to endure around 100 G's!

Anything over about 12 G's can instantly incapacitate a human. I'm not exactly sure, I think anything above 25 G's will kill a human. I suppose the object could be unmanned and have advanced materials we've never heard of, but one wonders.

I'm thinking a healthy supply of vodka and/or electronic glitches can provide a more plausible answer!

Ken
 
sustained or instantaneous Ken?

At Silverstone David Purley suffered a stuck throttle and crashed with incredible violence. Purley was subjected to the highest G-forces ever survived by a human being - 179.8G - when the car went from 108mph to zero in just over half a meter. Human tolerances depend on the magnitude of the g-force, the length of time it is applied, the direction it acts, the location of application, and the posture of the body.The human body is flexible and deformable, particularly the softer tissues. A hard slap on the face may briefly impose hundreds of g locally but not produce any real damage; a constant 16 g for a minute, however, may be deadly. When vibration is experienced, relatively low peak g levels can be severely damaging if they are at the resonance frequency of organs and connective tissues.
 
Thanks KD for the heads up. That's wild stuff.

They had migs chasing a blunt ended giant cylinder last year, and the thing did a slow bank and accellerated away from the fighters with some pretty impressive power. No exhaust trail.



Bill
 
I am a very skeptical mind, and I have read a great deal about this stuff since 3-4 years. Today I am almost 100% convinced somebody or something is visiting us. There is too much going on. Where there is smoke there is fire - old saying.
 
you're right that chart never gets old :icon_lol:

oh visitors from another world is entirely plausible, given how vast the universe is. remember that there are literally trillions of stars much like our sun, now if only 10% have a single planet thats still a few trillion... now out of them say 1 trillion planets, another 10% may have life, whether in amoebae phase of evolution right up to developed beyond what we are, them odds are still pretty darned high, i'm sceptical but i do believe that we cannot possibly be alone in this universe, and who can say, positively and 100% certain that we can't be visited, if we had that kind of technology to go and visit other planets that are less developed with life you'd go and buzz a planet wouldn't you? :icon_lol: i know i would....
 
Smoothie said:
if we had that kind of technology to go and visit other planets that are less developed with life you'd go and buzz a planet wouldn't you? :icon_lol: i know i would....
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..and that likely explains the "instantaneous changes of direction" .. as the pilot and crew burst into another gale of laughter at what they see...

:wiggle:

On the serious side... Ken when I had my major accident a few years ago (guy turned across the road in front of me _ I was doing about 50 mph) they estimated the impact at +/- 38g. To the best of my knowledge and contrary to some claims, I survived. Of course, I was driving my daily-driver/part-time rally card and had the belts cinched tight. I'd imagine even a scout from an interstellar exploration craft would have either good cushioning or some sort of anti-g system, but most of the abductees aren't given such classified information.
 
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All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
 
I was a UFO believer as a teenager in the 1960s. Back then the bookshelves of the local library were filled with books of UFOs and, I read them all. My dad and I use to go out and lie under the stars looking for shooting stars and UFOs where he explained to me the things a man passes on to his son. Those were great times for me but, I digress.

Today, I believe differently. I will not argue that there is probably life on other planets. There may even be salient life on other plants who have reached the level of scientific sophistication to develop faster than light travel.

My questioning of "UFOs" come from two points.

1. Space is vast, very vast. I thnk it would be safe to use an analogy of an ant from New York trying to find a certain food source in California. The odds of this "other species" finding us in the vastness of the universe is like an ant traveling all the way to California from New York, to find one particular bit of food.

2. My second reasoning is "Murphy's Law" or to be a bit more scientific, the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If someone has been visiting us for some 70 years in the frequency some people think, sooner or later a major accident would have occurred that could not have been "covered up." There is nothing in the universe that does not deteriorate and eventually fail.

We have no real evidence of UFOs. We have a lot of unexplained phenomena. To me, those two are very different.
 
jmig said:
I was a UFO believer as a teenager in the 1960s. Back then the bookshelves of the local library were filled with books of UFOs and, I read them all. My dad and I use to go out and lie under the stars looking for shooting stars and UFOs where he explained to me the things a man passes on to his son. Those were great times for me but, I digress.

Today, I believe differently. I will not argue that there is probably life on other planets. There may even be salient life on other plants who have reached the level of scientific sophistication to develop faster than light travel.

My questioning of "UFOs" come from two points.

1. Space is vast, very vast. I thnk it would be safe to use an analogy of an ant from New York trying to find a certain food source in California. The odds of this "other species" finding us in the vastness of the universe is like an ant traveling all the way to California from New York, to find one particular bit of food.

2. My second reasoning is "Murphy's Law" or to be a bit more scientific, the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If someone has been visiting us for some 70 years in the frequency some people think, sooner or later a major accident would have occurred that could not have been "covered up." There is nothing in the universe that does not deteriorate and eventually fail.

We have no real evidence of UFOs. We have a lot of unexplained phenomena. To me, those two are very different.
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:applause: well said
 
Just to put a spin on things...just because it's a UFO doesn't mean that it's being crewed by little green men. There's always the possibility that it's a man-made creation.;)
 
srgalahad said:
..and that likely explains the "instantaneous changes of direction" .. as the pilot and crew burst into another gale of laughter at what they see...

:wiggle:

On the serious side... Ken when I had my major accident a few years ago (guy turned across the road in front of me _ I was doing about 50 mph) they estimated the impact at +/- 38g. To the best of my knowledge and contrary to some claims, I survived. Of course, I was driving my daily-driver/part-time rally card and had the belts cinched tight. I'd imagine even a scout from an interstellar exploration craft would have either good cushioning or some sort of anti-g system, but most of the abductees aren't given such classified information.
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LOL!! Well, I'm confident you survived, but I'm sure you were in so much pain there were times you wondered if you really did.

Yeah, I figured you smart folks would give me the updates. I couldn't remember the threshold and seems like that's because there isn't really one. It simply depends upon the circumstances.

Ken
 
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