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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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    Post 17 Warning

Russian (Interceptor) Interpreter?

Just had a quick look at it. By no means do I speak fluent Russian (though I'm getting there), but some were easy enough to translate.

6. Angle of Attack sensor.
42. Fuel tank #1.
43. Radiocompass.
44. Fuel tank #2.
55. Flaperon.
70. Stabiliser.
72. AL-31F engine thrust vector control.
85. Fuel tank #3.
90. Guided close range missile R-73.
91. Guided long range missile RVV-AE (also known as R-77).
92. Missile ejection unit AKU-170.
93. Guided missile Kh-29L.
94. Guided missile Kh-31A.
95. Missile ejection unit AKU-58.
97. GSh-301 cannon.
98. Ammunition, caliber: 30mm.

I only have time for a cursory glance over it right now, I can try again a bit later. :russia:
 
AN-225 is correct,
2 ones that immediately stuck out (I'm translating the remainder now);

63. VHF Radio Antenna
64. HF Radio Antenna
 
just digging through my folder of russian blueprints hoping i already translated it in the past.... me and Sukhois have an affinity... i just can't leave the things alone, ask Pam what i'm like when i get a whiff or a Sukhoi :icon_lol:
 
GOT IT! translated Diagram!, and about 20 pages of technical info on the thing (SU-27K/SU-33 onwards, as well as Su-27 earlier series info) :salute:

scanning it in as we speak.....
 
scanner packed in, resorted to photo-ing it, theres other documents i have on things like the HUD systems, RADAR, IFCS (Integrated Fire Control System), Cockpit in General etc....

bonus 2 shots of me in a related habitat, Su-27MKI of Ukranian AF :icon_lol: (Many thanks to my Ukranian Air Force friends for allowing me to do this During RIAT, when the A-10 was displaying too! i got to see something not many pilots have :icon_lol: a Hog in a Sukhoi' HUD :icon_lol:) :salute: that Sukhoi was my obsession at RIAT, screw the flying display, i was round that -27MKI like a fly to sh*t :icon_lol:
 
Matt Wynn said:
scanner packed in, resorted to photo-ing it, theres other documents i have on things like the HUD systems, RADAR, IFCS (Integrated Fire Control System), Cockpit in General etc....

bonus 2 shots of me in a related habitat, Su-27MKI of Ukranian AF :icon_lol: (Many thanks to my Ukranian Air Force friends for allowing me to do this During RIAT, when the A-10 was displaying too! i got to see something not many pilots have :icon_lol: a Hog in a Sukhoi' HUD :icon_lol:) :salute: that Sukhoi was my obsession at RIAT, screw the flying display, i was round that -27MKI like a fly to sh*t :icon_lol:
Click to expand...

That looks like it was a very interesting, and fun opportunity to be treasured!

Just curious as to how that Ukrainian example (bort number 75) is a "Su-27MKI"....
Was it transferred from the Indian Air Force (Su-30MKI)? I'm not seeing indications that the Ukrainians are operating -30s at all yet, so this could be a neat development! (No such thing as a -27MKI)

From my research, it's a Su-27UB (also known as a Flanker-C) which as you probably know, is a two-seat trainer conversion. (Possibly a UBM, but I'm not sure how recent this bort number is), but if you can provide evidence that the Ukranians are reclassifying things themselves away from Sukhoi OKB designations, that'll be an equally interesting (and potentially very confusing for me) development as well!


Regarding the OP's request, it looks like by now that the translation services have been handled by now, but if you need any flight testing or systems verification, I'm familiar with how most Russian avionics systems work.
Also, just be mindful of the differences between the -27 and -37. (The 37 is a major upgrade, which itself is based off of the -35....also, thrust-vectoring!)
 
Matt Wynn said:
Paul, this may be of some use....
i knew i had it somewhere, same list but with the diagram to show what's what, might help you out a bit while we translate it fully :salute:
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I ran into a few minor stumbling blocks on my Duck, got frustrated and knew I needed to take a break from it.
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I pulled this model off the shelf and wiped the dust off for some additional work. While digging for more reference I found the same cut-a-way drawing. I used Photoshop to cut out the drawing and reduce the size of the image so I could post it at the same resolution for ease of reading.
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Thanks, this will greatly help in the development.
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Paul

PS, you didn't have a camera in your lap while sitting in the cockpit by any chance did you Matt?
 
Matt Wynn said:
scanner packed in, resorted to photo-ing it, theres other documents i have on things like the HUD systems, RADAR, IFCS (Integrated Fire Control System), Cockpit in General etc....

bonus 2 shots of me in a related habitat, Su-27MKI of Ukranian AF :icon_lol: (Many thanks to my Ukranian Air Force friends for allowing me to do this During RIAT, when the A-10 was displaying too! i got to see something not many pilots have :icon_lol: a Hog in a Sukhoi' HUD :icon_lol:) :salute: that Sukhoi was my obsession at RIAT, screw the flying display, i was round that -27MKI like a fly to sh*t :icon_lol:
Click to expand...
I'd be grinning from ear to ear too. :icon_lol:
:ernae:
 
Paul, I'll ring round a few contacts... there's a few people that owe me favours, i've gathered 9-10 pages of information on the Flanker Family already, from information such as the Ejection Seat and the Prototype to the Engines and Carrier converted Su-33... will keep going through my folders and as i say call in a few favours, and yeah.... i have a few cockpit shots, pretty certain i had a maintenance manual and cockpit diagram around here someplace, also found the 'strike flanker' or as she's affectionately known 'Platypus' 3-views i thought i'd lost....

yeah it was a UB, mind was groggy the other night and i'd been doing research on the Su-30MKI...

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Blue 75, the very bird i sat in and felt instantly right at home.... despite being used to Smaller aircraft like CTSW's and the Thruxton Jackaroo (latter of which there is my favourite to fly in, one i fly in was the original Jackaroo Prototype, Converted from a Tiger Moth airframe)
 
Well, I'm still working away on the flight model. Its the same flight model you see in the su-37 video on my youtube page, and the same one thats the foundation of iris's F-22.
I'm finding that building the flight model isnt so much a matter of construction, but more like sculpting ( using stone axes and knives ). With active canards, elevons and 3D thrust vectoring, the plane has two more control mechanisms than fsx is set up for, so, its a real adventure. The canards are the hardest as i have few options for those. I had them set up as elevators but that results in the same issue as having the elevons at the back of the aircraft. its one too few sets of control surfaces. Also, Paul has been studying videos of the SU-37 and discovered that each canard can act independently of the other. Directly coupled with the thrust, that makes a certain sense, and gives the plane an amazing roll rate coupled with complete directional control from any point through the roll. Getting that directional control built into the fde is gonna be a real trick.
the thrust is a no brainer. I showed Paul the video where during the pre-flight, the SU-37 crosses its thrust. Thats easy. As soon as the thrust moves off the centerline, it becomes a pseudo elevon/rudder, so its forces just gets folded into the pitch, yaw and roll calculations. Getting the proportional force correct however, is a bit more difficult.
My objective is to make pauls SU-37 fly exactly as it does in the videos, while providing ease of control for the pilot. I have a feeling we need a top notch programmer to set up the fly by wire control mechanisms that sits between the pilot and the fde, since thats whats going to interpret the pilots input and execute those portions of the flight model while balancing the pilots commands against an operational envelope determined by the G-forces any given input would result in.
I'm hoping Matt will continue to be willing to flight test the bird as we develop it further, and Frank, would love to have your input as well..
Pam
 
Pam, naturally i'll be on hand to test it for you....

remember the engines across the series vary (Lyulka AL-37FU for the Su-37, AL-31F for the Su-27, 30, 33,34(AL-31FM1 engine variant) & 35 ) and each would have to be treated as such, the 27, 30, 33,34 and 35 all have the same engine (more or less), the Thrust Vectoring on the AL-37FU make it unique to the Su-37.... they're all wildly different, and all soo beautiful and despite their great, agressive looks and size (They are intimidating just up close, let alone climbing up a boarding ladder to take my seat in the pit, no luxury of a star set like you'd normally see up airshows, i was still up that ladder faster than if it was being scrambled :icon_lol:) are elegant and poised... in the Su-37 this comes to a magnificent aircraft, another Russian Thrust vectoring aircraft is what is often called the MiG-29OVT, although technically is a MiG-35 (Export MiG-29 Airframe) only the engines carry the OVT (RD-33OVT), and just like on the Sukhoi Su-37 they are 3D thrust vectoring (as opposed to 2D on the F-22 and Su-30MKI series) so they can move up-down, or individually up-down (2D), left and right (3D). even all the cockpits are different the Su-37 having 4 Sextan Avionique(Thales) MCD's....

stll doing my digging around, i have a lot more in front of me but still trying to find a few bits....
 
yup, we're using the AL-37FU's, but i need to go back through them and make certain that the power curves are correct. If i can get my hands on the data sheet for those engines, especially the compression/output curves, we'll be in good shape.
 
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