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Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.
Sad news from Brazil...
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deathfromafar
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You can get the AoA to a point where lift is impeded by the lack of/divergence of airflow over the airfoil. I've practiced enough accelerated stalls & flatspin entries in low & mid wing A/C over the last 20 years to know.
This poor guy simply misjudged it pure & simple probably due to loss of SA coming out of that Lumshavak they do in their routine. Another 100ft may have made the difference but even had he made it ,still a serious safety bust.
Anyone remember this safety bust by an RAF Typhoon Pilot? Nearly planted himself!
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tigisfat
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(puts on best thick but fake texas accent and cocks eyebrow)
Now where I come from, we sometimes call that a stall.
(puts serious face back on)
I couldn't resist that opportunity.
But what you're actually describing is an aircraft's inability to change direction under high momentums and an high AOA, right? Aircraft are being built with extremely rapid pitch rates that past a point, put in laymens terms, produce more vertical skidding than direction change. Evidence of it's intentional use would be the pugachev maneuvers. Most aircraft with a 90 degree angle of attack will not change direction when further pitch is applied.
deathfromafar
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LOL!
Pretty right on. Stall is a stall even if the horns aren't sounding. You know the law of variables due to airframe/airfoil design. You can get into trouble just as easy at lower AoA as you can at higher AoA depending on all those variables. I remember being yelled at by my Instructor for holding too much backpressure in certain attitudes and maneuvers. When you learn how a particular plane/design flies, there's always little tale-tale signs in the controls and the airframe itself that tell you what is going on and if you're about to make a mistake that will bite you. One constant that never changes, the ground is solid terra-firma and it's waiting on you to come back down sooner or later. You better have your S**t together if you're flying low level or maneuvering down low.
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Ken Stallings
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I needed some time to get my brain around my thoughts and figure out a suitable response to this thread. We are all sad, but only just now did I remember something that I thought expressed my thoughts properly.
I began to feel that I lived on a higher plane than the skeptics of the ground; one that was richer because of its very association with the element of danger they dreaded, because it was freer of the earth to which they were bound. In flying, I tasted a wine of the gods of which they could know nothing. Who valued life more highly, the aviators who spent it on the art they loved, or these misers who doled it out like pennies through their antlike days? I decided that if I could fly for ten years before I was killed in a crash, it would be a worthwhile trade for an ordinary life time.
They practiced their art they loved and lived a much greater than ordinary life!
Salute,
Ken
I began to feel that I lived on a higher plane than the skeptics of the ground; one that was richer because of its very association with the element of danger they dreaded, because it was freer of the earth to which they were bound. In flying, I tasted a wine of the gods of which they could know nothing. Who valued life more highly, the aviators who spent it on the art they loved, or these misers who doled it out like pennies through their antlike days? I decided that if I could fly for ten years before I was killed in a crash, it would be a worthwhile trade for an ordinary life time.
- Charles A. Lindbergh, 'The Spirit of St. Louis.'
They practiced their art they loved and lived a much greater than ordinary life!
Salute,
Ken
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tigisfat
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They practiced their art they loved and lived a much greater than ordinary life!
Salute,
Ken
Plus the smoke squadron is a pretty elite team. If I got to be the slot or solo pilot for the blues and only live a few more years, I'd do it.....girlfriend be damned.