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Section F8 F-86 re-imagined to CA-27 Avon Sabre

Yes, that might all be fine and true, gentlemen, but i have a new ConvairLiner series, a NAF N3N and a DC-3 to finish up on my plate here and that's more than enough to keep me from wandering the streets at midnight looking for trouble. Besides, i'd LOVE to have another go at the venerable Sabre now that we have P3Dv4 to play around with of course but because of the MV F-86 i would not be thinking about the Avon CA-27 in the first place. I would rather go naval with the FJ-2/3 Fury or even the completely different FJ-4 (thinking about it (NOT!) certainly the F-86D/K still springs to mind too)

Jafo, just stick to the interesting and colourful liveries, mate, you'll never make it a CA-27 just by moving around the gun ports. Good job nontheless ! :encouragement:

Cheers,
Jan
 
Javis said:
Jafo, just stick to the interesting and colourful liveries, mate, you'll never make it a CA-27 just by moving around the gun ports. Good job nontheless ! :encouragement:

Cheers,
Jan
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Yes, we just do what we can with what we've got....;)

I'd love to know why the left side of the tailplane was a reflected right side....then rotated left a curious 181.7 degrees....

Sometimes I think modellers just want to test our attentiveness...;)
 
Jan, the Convair looks fantastic - and I'll fly the wings off it when it's done. But a -4 Fury ... now that's the stuff of dreams .... :wiggle:\\

Back to Jafo - Great project! I'll dust off the S8 F-86 just for these repaints.

cheers,

dl
 
Hi,

Bjoern said:
I think any modeler should also be a painter. It would reduce the amount of models with awful UV mapping by 87.45%.
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No doubt but it is very distinct skills. One refers to a technique that everyone can acquire (modeling 3D), the other is more art and requires some talent.

JMC
 
Anybody can model, anybody can paint, anybody can code gauges. It's just a matter of focus.
 
gastonj said:
Hi,



No doubt but it is very distinct skills. One refers to a technique that everyone can acquire (modeling 3D), the other is more art and requires some talent.

JMC
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I certainly wouldn't diminish either of the 'trades', both require dedication/commitment.
Once you go down one path or the other...you're stuck....lost in the specifics of the one...at the expense of ever pursuing the other...;)
 
Took a bit of work....13 layers to alter...but here's A94-101 with the cannon ports exactly 20 pixels higher. At some time I'll 'do the math' and work out just how far they were moved IRL.

The other paints 'should' be less of a pain....now that the first one is sorted....;)

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I certainly wouldn't diminish either of the 'trades', both require dedication/commitment.
Once you go down one path or the other...you're stuck....lost in the specifics of the one...at the expense of ever pursuing the other...;)
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Hi,

Counting certainly among the worst freeware developers and certainly the least representative of the genre, it was only my humble opinion (lol).

JMC
 
A94-901 - first proddy CA-27 now with cannons in the better location....over YMML.

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Edit.....and VH-SBR aka A94-352 .....getting easier to do...

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962 Black Panthers....

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Might have another go at that darn stripe...as it gets to the top it's like 1 pixel paints 50 so getting it smooth is nigh on impossible...;)

974 ....

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....and 983.... Black Diamonds.
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Jafo she looks 100% better now with the gun ports raised a wee bit. Well done!

As for "do the math" in relation to how much the guns were moved.....quite a bit and no where near the original 20mm gun ports. You could say close to 90% of the fuselage was changed to accommodate the Avon engine and our requirements for the 2 x 33mm cannons and not the 6 x 20 mm guns. The intake alone was increased to 435 cubic inches for the Avon and thus the intake was lowered 3.73 inches. If you get a chance to get up close to one, pop your head in the intake. You can clearly see the "patch" where the amendment was done.

Not sure if you have it? Stewart Wilson's book "Meteor, Sabre and Mirage In Australian Service" is a fantastic read and a great reference.

Cheers,
Tim.
 
Timmy74 said:
Jafo she looks 100% better now with the gun ports raised a wee bit. Well done!

As for "do the math" in relation to how much the guns were moved.....quite a bit and no where near the original 20mm gun ports. You could say close to 90% of the fuselage was changed to accommodate the Avon engine and our requirements for the 2 x 33mm cannons and not the 6 x 20 mm guns. The intake alone was increased to 435 cubic inches for the Avon and thus the intake was lowered 3.73 inches. If you get a chance to get up close to one, pop your head in the intake. You can clearly see the "patch" where the amendment was done.

Not sure if you have it? Stewart Wilson's book "Meteor, Sabre and Mirage In Australian Service" is a fantastic read and a great reference.

Cheers,
Tim.
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In my researching I found a photo of a Sabre at Mildura Aerodrome ...at the time my dad was running the Airport....for the DCA as a FSO grade 3. I would have been too young to have noticed. At that time he was also taking air samples for the Govt thanks to Maralinga. Those was the days....;)
 
Been experimenting with full paint....to see if it threw up any oddities.....and managed to find the pitot tube on the right wing....as you do...;)
Definitely getting closer to upping the paints I've done....though needless to say I'll need to incorporate the pitot/s ....

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Needless to say...found more quirks....getting camo wrap to align discovered more issues....but I think I got it....
Bit of 'SEA' just for fun....;)

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Time to do something about calling them finished...so this'll be the first to upload - presently....currently compiled into DXT5 DDS ....just need to package it and upload...;)

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I've compiled the 6 versions into DXT5 format and am preparing the text files, etc for upload.... so perhaps I can then get on to something else. It's been months of fiddling/tweaking [and moving guns]...;)
Edit....yay...just uploaded the first of 6....

Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation RAAF CA-26 - Avon Sabre c/n 1428. The one-and-only '26, and Prototype '27. First flew on 03/08/1953 piloted by Flt Lt Bill Scott. To ARDU 14/04/1955. Now on display, Point Cook, Victoria.


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Second is up, too...

Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation RAAF CA27-1 Mk.30 - Avon Sabre s/n A94-901, 1AD ex CAC 19/08/1954 - at some time converted to Mk.31. To 78 Wing, 18 August 1960. Static display HARS Albion Park, NSW.

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Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation RAAF CA27-92 Mk.32 - Avon Sabre, s/n A94-352. First served with 75 Sqn, Noted as being part of the Black Diamonds Aerobatic Team (75 Sqn), the Black Panthers Aerobatic Team (76 Sqn) and the Red Diamonds Aerobatic Team (76 Sqn). First flight after restoration - 21/09/2013. Currently restored and airworthy - Latrobe Valley Airport, Vic. Registered VH-SBR.

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