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Ship error

Not the Sliders

OK. I tried turning to the left (down) all sliders in FSX and to no avail
do the vapors go away. SO......I'm hoping there is some other way to
crack this nut. :pop4:
 
1 - Download this 3 ships: project 1134B, 1134A and 1123 from here--> http://74.125.91.132/translate_c?hl...anno=2&usg=ALkJrhhLTXHld5b_fTcY5vOuifF3qebzsw

2- you most have Clemenceu 2 (you have the link somewhere here)

3- and this is my configuration in AI-carrier .CFG for this formation:


[formation.1]
title=Clemenceau + Russ
unit.0=AI_Project-1134A_Isakov, 600, 770
unit.1=VEH_Clemenceau, 0, 0
unit.2=AI_Project-1134B_Kerch, -400, -200
unit.3=AI_Project-1123_Moskow, 200, -400
unit.4=AI_Project-1134B_Ochakov, 350, -120
unit.5=AI_Project-1123_Leningrad, 400, -700
 
Hi Folks

BASys said:
Can those with a problem
please identify the specific models.
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tipton123 said:
The specific models are actually
any and all destroyers.
The big ships i.e., carriers oilers are just ducky.
The CV6 enterprise has wake that is located on the bow end, another issue.
But the "Tin cans" all have this smoke trail.
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Need a list of the specific models, (not the class of vessel).
Please include where you got them, e.g. FS-Shipyards. :icon_lol:

BASys said:
Are you guys using precompiled ship/flightplans ?
Or Lamont Clarke's java applet for dynamic routeing ?
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Still waiting. :icon_lol:

Hanimichal said:
But with the russian add-ons ships I dont have problems!
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Not surprising,
as they apparently don't have any wakes at all. :icon_lol:

Does the issue still occur
if the fleet only contains Microsoft FSX default vessels ?

If so,
in the fsx setting dialog, Graphics tab,
click the button titled Reset Default.

Does the issue still occur ?



Please also see my post on render-stalls,
and apply the two fsx.CFG settings from there.

PS
It may be a proble with the aircraft you're flying,
not the ships themselves,
or a combination of both.



HTH
ATB
Paul
 
Hi everybody,
It's an interesting problem!
First, I'm glad to see that Clemenceau's wake is OK : good girl! :bump:
It sound like an fx effect issue. Check the wake effect files used by the ships in trouble (look into each sim.cfg).
May be they're calling FS9 wake effect files.
Modify your sim.cfg to use FSX standard wakes and see what happen.

Regards
Sylvain
 
I have the problem as well, I think the offending file is

fx_wake_l.fx

this is the effect that I have, is it any different from someone who's frigates effects are working correctly or someone who knows what they are look at/for?

[Library Effect]
Lifetime=5
Version=1.00

[Emitter.0]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.00, 0.00
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=1.00, 1.00
Z Offset=-0.00, 0.00

[Particle.0]
Lifetime=90.07, 90.07 ;original values 30.07, 30.07 length of wake
Type=21
X Scale=50.50, 50.50
Y Scale=50.50, 50.50
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.04, 0.04
Y Scale Rate=0.04, 0.04
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.11, 0.11
Fade In=0.10, 0.10
Fade Out=0.80, 0.80
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.0]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_1.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 180
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
TempK=109.00
TempRate=0.01
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=90.00
Y Scale Goal=90.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=60.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00

[Emitter.1]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.10, 0.11
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=1.00, 1.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.1]
Lifetime=60.07, 60.07 ;original values 20.07, 20.07 length of wake
Type=21
X Scale=50.50, 50.50
Y Scale=50.50, 50.50
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.15, 0.15
Y Scale Rate=0.15, 0.15
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.60, 0.60
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.1]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_2.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 160
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
TempK=109.00
TempRate=0.01
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=110.00
Y Scale Goal=110.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=80.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00
 
Hi,
I'm not sure but both "ParticleAttributes" blocs have lines about "Temp" .
It's used for managing the way the smokes are moving up or not...
I would try to put these 4 lines in comment...

Regards,
Sylvain
 
sparouty said:
Hi,
I'm not sure but both "ParticleAttributes" blocs have lines about "Temp" .
It's used for managing the way the smokes are moving up or not...
I would try to put these 4 lines in comment...

Regards,
Sylvain
Click to expand...


Thank you Sylvian for the help

I've got mine sorted, the items in red are the amended lines

[Library Effect]
Lifetime=5
Version=1.00

[Emitter.0]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.00, 0.00
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=1.00, 1.00
Z Offset=-0.00, 0.00

[Particle.0]
Lifetime=90.07, 90.07 ;original values 30.07, 30.07 length of wake
Type=21
X Scale=50.50, 50.50
Y Scale=50.50, 50.50
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.04, 0.04
Y Scale Rate=0.04, 0.04
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.11, 0.11
Fade In=0.10, 0.10
Fade Out=0.80, 0.80
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.0]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_1.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 180
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
//TempK=109.00
//TempRate=0.01
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=90.00
Y Scale Goal=90.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=60.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00

[Emitter.1]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.10, 0.11
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=1.00, 1.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.1]
Lifetime=60.07, 60.07 ;original values 20.07, 20.07 length of wake
Type=21
X Scale=50.50, 50.50
Y Scale=50.50, 50.50
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.15, 0.15
Y Scale Rate=0.15, 0.15
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.60, 0.60
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.1]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_2.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 160
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
//TempK=109.00
//TempRate=0.01
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=110.00
Y Scale Goal=110.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=80.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00


Bruce
 
Hi Folks

Sylvian -
Well spotted that man. :icon_lol:

Bruce -
From its content, that wake file is not from FSX.

fx_wake_l.fx file -
- dated 22 August 2007, 16:57:32 (as all FSXA wakes should be).
- contents -
Code: 
[Library Effect]
Lifetime=5
Version=2.00
Radius=-1
Priority=0

[Sound]
FileName=xwaterloop.wav
MinAttenuationDistance=2.00
Looping=TRUE

[Properties]

[Emitter.0]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.00, 0.00
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Pitch=0.00, 0.00
Bank=0.00, 0.00
Heading=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.0]
Lifetime=40.00, 40.00
Type=21
X Scale=29.00, 31.00
Y Scale=29.00, 31.00
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Y Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.11, 0.11
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.50, 0.50
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.0]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_1.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 100
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=300.00
Y Scale Goal=300.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=30.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00

[Emitter.1]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.10, 0.11
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Pitch=0.00, 0.00
Bank=0.00, 0.00
Heading=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.1]
Lifetime=35.00, 35.00
Type=21
X Scale=29.00, 31.00
Y Scale=29.00, 31.00
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Y Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.20, 0.20
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.1]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_2.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 180
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=300.00
Y Scale Goal=300.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=30.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00
FSX default vessels don't necessarily list their effects in the sim.cfg,
most utilise attachpoints, and require reading the model file.

Suggest you repair your FSX, (or Acceleration).



It really :censored: me off
when developers unnecessarily tamper with default effects.



HTH
ATB
Paul
 
BASys said:
Hi Folks

Sylvian -
Well spotted that man. :icon_lol:

Bruce -
From its content, that wake file is not from FSX.

fx_wake_l.fx file -
- dated 22 August 2007, 16:57:32 (as all FSXA wakes should be).
- contents -
Code: 
[Library Effect]
Lifetime=5
Version=2.00
Radius=-1
Priority=0

[Sound]
FileName=xwaterloop.wav
MinAttenuationDistance=2.00
Looping=TRUE

[Properties]

[Emitter.0]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.00, 0.00
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Pitch=0.00, 0.00
Bank=0.00, 0.00
Heading=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.0]
Lifetime=40.00, 40.00
Type=21
X Scale=29.00, 31.00
Y Scale=29.00, 31.00
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Y Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.11, 0.11
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.50, 0.50
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.0]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_1.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 100
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=300.00
Y Scale Goal=300.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=30.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00

[Emitter.1]
Lifetime=0.00, 0.00
Delay=0.10, 0.11
Bounce=0.00
Rate=1.00, 1.00
X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00
X Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00
Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Pitch=0.00, 0.00
Bank=0.00, 0.00
Heading=0.00, 0.00

[Particle.1]
Lifetime=35.00, 35.00
Type=21
X Scale=29.00, 31.00
Y Scale=29.00, 31.00
Z Scale=0.00, 0.00
X Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Y Scale Rate=0.05, 0.05
Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00
Drag=0.00, 0.00
Color Rate=0.00, 0.00
X Offset=0.00, 0.00
Y Offset=0.00, 0.00
Z Offset=0.00, 0.00
Fade In=0.05, 0.05
Fade Out=0.20, 0.20
Ground Normal=1
Shade=1
Face=1, 0, 1

[ParticleAttributes.1]
Blend Mode=1
Texture=fx_wake_2.bmp
Bounce=0.00
Color Start=255, 255, 255, 180
Color End=255, 255, 255, 0
Jitter Distance=0.02
Jitter Time=1.00
uv1=0.00, 0.00
uv2=1.00, 1.00
X Scale Goal=300.00
Y Scale Goal=300.00
Z Scale Goal=0.00
Extrude Length=30.00
Extrude Pitch Max=90.00
Extrude Heading Max=10.00
FSX default vessels don't necessarily list their effects in the sim.cfg,
most utilise attachpoints, and require reading the model file.

Suggest you repair your FSX, (or Acceleration).



It really :censored: me off
when developers unnecessarily tamper with default effects.



HTH
ATB
Paul
Click to expand...


Will do Paul, the only way I found out which file it was was to cut and paste all the wake effects to a separate folder and then put them back in one by one, having to stop and start FSX because CTRL + ; didn't work for me.

Bruce
 
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