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Ship`s files questions

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mariereid

Charter Member
Morning folks; I went to change"dynamics" in Essex, only to find out that the only ship with dynamics was Enterprise. Is this normal? I copied it to the Essex and made a couple of changes. Is this all I have to do? Anther thing I noticed in all ships model cfg. was lines discribing colors of various aircraft parts.Is this normal? This is the first time I`ve looked into the files. I have added ships before, but that was months ago. All I have on this install is a couple of aircraft, pactex, Louigs effects. Are my files screwed up? Thanks
 
mariereid said:
Morning folks; I went to change"dynamics" in Essex, only to find out that the only ship with dynamics was Enterprise. Is this normal? I copied it to the Essex and made a couple of changes. Is this all I have to do? Anther thing I noticed in all ships model cfg. was lines discribing colors of various aircraft parts.Is this normal? This is the first time I`ve looked into the files. I have added ships before, but that was months ago. All I have on this install is a couple of aircraft, pactex, Louigs effects. Are my files screwed up? Thanks
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Yes, I mentioned that Dynamics paragraph to you yesterday. I forgot to add that you can copy and paste it onto bottom of the cfg of any ship that doesn't already have one.

Again...

[Dynamics]
pitch_wave_moment_scale = 1
bank_wave_moment_scale = 1
pitch_damp_moment_scale = 1
bank_damp_moment_scale = 1

...is the stock (calm seas) value.
 
Thanks Shadow Wolf 07, I did stick it on the end of the Essex file. Made the -2 and 4 adjustment. Also added some wind. Now,taking off and landing on a nice calm day seems easy. Oh, what fun!? Today, I say the most fantastic fire effect ever! Ouch!
 
Yeah, that`s what I also noticed on the mission I`ve been using. Not nearly as bad, but it sure makes a difference. Even the wind set to moderate is causing problems. looks like my speedometer needle is broken, sometimes. Maybe all this stress is causing me to see things. Just when you think your doing good, there is something else to learn to deal with. Man, whoever is flying in that video is really slick! Thanks for the tips SW 07, First time I ever looked in ship cfg file. Hmm, what else can i fiddle with?
 
mariereid said:
Yeah, that`s what I also noticed on the mission I`ve been using. Not nearly as bad, but it sure makes a difference. Even the wind set to moderate is causing problems. looks like my speedometer needle is broken, sometimes. Maybe all this stress is causing me to see things. Just when you think your doing good, there is something else to learn to deal with. Man, whoever is flying in that video is really slick! Thanks for the tips SW 07, First time I ever looked in ship cfg file. Hmm, what else can i fiddle with?
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Want more deck to take off from? On the cfg file for the Enterprise change the takeoff_start= to:

[flight_deck_section]
width=32
length=241
takeoff_start=-6,21,-80
takeoff_stop=0,21,120
landing_start=0,500,-5000
landing_touch_down=0.1920005,15.5,-81.536003
landing_stop=0.1920005,15.5,0

and on the Essex to:

[flight_deck_section]
width=32
length=241
takeoff_start=0,21,-90
takeoff_stop=0,21,120
landing_start=0,500,-5000
landing_touch_down=1.279999,19.456001,-95.135239
landing_stop=1.279999,19.456001,0


Note in the video the F4F is taling off and landing with 2 250lb bombs.
 
mariereid said:
Morning folks; I went to change"dynamics" in Essex, only to find out that the only ship with dynamics was Enterprise. Is this normal? I copied it to the Essex and made a couple of changes. Is this all I have to do? Anther thing I noticed in all ships model cfg. was lines discribing colors of various aircraft parts.Is this normal? This is the first time I`ve looked into the files. I have added ships before, but that was months ago. All I have on this install is a couple of aircraft, pactex, Louigs effects. Are my files screwed up? Thanks
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No, you have a screwed up .cfg file.

it should read-

[fltsim.0]
title=sha_enterprise_cv-6
sim=sha_enterprise_cv-6
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=

[flight_deck_section]
; this section defines the control points the
; AI (and LSO) use to steer towards the flight deck
width=32
length=241
takeoff_start=0,21,-50
takeoff_stop=0,21,120
landing_start=0,500,-5000
landing_touch_down=0.1920005,16.896,-81.536003
landing_stop=0.1920005,16.896,0


[platform.0]
; platforms are the actual surface that the planes
; land on. You can define as many platforms as you
; want by adding subsequent sections with increasing
; numbers. e.g. [platform.1], [platform.2] etc.
;
; vertices should be defined in model coordinates,
; and counter-clockwise order when viewed from above.
: REMEMBER, positive z is out the TAIL of the ship
; the shape may be concave or convex
; there may be from 3 to 20 vertices (limitation
; may go away later) and they must all be on the same
; plane.
vertex.0=10.880001,16.896,-117.376007
vertex.1=-12.416,16.896,-117.632004
vertex.2=-12.672001,16.896,-106.624008
vertex.3=-13.824001,16.896,-81.408005
vertex.4=-13.952001,16.896,-49.152004
vertex.5=-16.256001,16.896,-7.296
vertex.6=-16.256001,16.896,49.280003
vertex.7=-12.800001,16.896,76.800003
vertex.8=-12.800001,16.896,99.200005
vertex.9=-11.52,16.896,119.040009
vertex.10=12.800001,16.896,119.040009
vertex.11=14.336,16.896,100.224007
vertex.12=14.336,16.896,75.008003
vertex.13=14.336,16.896,48.256004
vertex.14=17.920002,16.896,-14.336
vertex.15=15.360001,16.896,-18.944
vertex.16=13.952001,16.896,-35.712002
vertex.17=14.080001,16.896,-81.536003
vertex.18=11.392001,16.896,-106.368004

[LANDING AIDS]
cable.0=13.312001,16.896,-81.536003,-12.928,16.896,-81.536003
cable.1=13.312001,16.896,-78.592003,-12.928,16.896,-78.592003
cable.2=13.312001,16.896,-75.520004,-12.928,16.896,-75.520004
cable.3=13.312001,16.896,-72.320007,-12.928,16.896,-72.320007

[Dynamics]
pitch_wave_moment_scale = 1
bank_wave_moment_scale = 1
pitch_damp_moment_scale = 1
bank_damp_moment_scale = 1




The second paragraph in [platform.0] is all wrong, one of those cf2 mistakes never corrected.

regards Collin:ernae:
 
Hi Guys; Collin, first off, thanks to everyone who shares their great work with guys like me. I could never do it myself. For me, it`s just like going to the candy store. My CFG File is just like the one in your message. The file with aircraft info was in MODEL, cfg file. All my ships have this info. Normal? Sorry, about mix up. Shadow Wolf 07, thanks for the info, sometime today, I will get at least one of Collins carriers. Can you take off and land on carriers in mission builder? I Have CC`s handbook. Awhile back, I thought I read somewhere that it was a problem. Dang, wife wants to go down to the shop. I`m retired, still not enough free time. Thanks for everything guys.
 
Yes, you can use them in Mission Builder as long as you follow the installation instructions. You can make missions with them, substitute them for carriers in existing missions as you want. For example I replaced the stock Yorktown Class with Usio's Lexington and Saratoga in the stock USN campaign - where called for. I'm currently using, in the campaign, the VN Enterprise for the Yorktown Class and for the Essex Class, I use a version that has a solid "island" - hit the superstructure and you blow up. I forgot where I got that one though. Lots of stuff you can do with the addon carriers and ships. I have no frame rate issues with either Collin's or the VN ships and they make nice substitutes for the stock craft. I especially like the Short Hull Essex (WW2) with their lighted decks when I have a dusk return from a mission.
 
The .cfg in Model folder is a default one which comes with sim. The discription of colours was most probably a note to the aircraft design team during the sim's construction which wasn't pulled before the sim was put out to the public. There are a number of these mistakes and tools program in cfs2 and these are being discovered by various people.

The ; on each line in the Model/ship.cfg is to stop the sim engine acting on the instruction.

Can you take off and land on carriers in mission builder?
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Literally...no. You have to create a mission and save it, then fly it to do this.

Dang, wife wants to go down to the shop
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Well see if you can get a good price for her.:icon_lol:

regards Collin:ernae:
 
Thanks guys; I have 4 copies of cfs2, so if this 1 ever gives me trouble, I can use another. Thanks for all the info. When I need a break from flying around, I`ll see if I can get some of the carriers to show up in missions. If you ever get bored go to "merchantmarie.com" That`s my wife`s shop. I am there now, on a windows 95. I have often thought about how much more time I would have on the computer, if I never met my wife. Oh, well......... heh,heh
 
Hi guys, just letting you know,I slaped a few dots on screen in mission builder, used Yorktown 43 and landed on it. I was always getting waved off. It will sure fill the need for carrier landing practice. After I landed took a look around in vc mood. The sound, spinning radar and communication stuff, weapons,etc, etc, etc, wow!!! I`ll try some smaller carriers in the AM. Thanks, again, and again WOW, what a ship!
 
Thanks for everything guys. When a fella can collect all the gear needed for the Leyte Gulf campaign again, I`ll be getting it. Hope the 1% aircraft come back soon. I tried to install the campaign some time ago, I think there was something that I could not figure out. Well, next time,I will be a litttle wiser and have a bit more confidence messing with the files. Now, let`s see if I can get those carriers rockin and rollin. Got to get a look at the lights, next flight. I have to remember, my goal for now is learning to fly, not download everything I can get my hands on! See Ya, Rick
 
Thanks SW, I will have to wait until I get home, I am at the tattoo shop.As you can tell, i`m really working hard. I am on the wife`s old computer. If I try to look at anything that moves(if I can see it at all) it`s restart time. I think a couple of minutes of cfs2 would finish off the old girl. The pc, not the wife!
 
Just watched video. Fun to watch, and good guide. I was going to put each carrier in a different mission. I am going to see if I can get 3 or 4 of Collins carriers in the mission I made yesterday. I have got to find a way to save all the info you guys have been giving me. Thanks Shadow Wolf 07
 
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