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SOH Team Project - Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer

Looks like a COD!!

Dave

You bet!

Finally got the windows and doors 3D and animated, and interior fuselage of cabin built to accommodate them.
Punching in all these holes means a lot of hand rework of the fuselage so it takes some time.
Worked on antennas a bit but still need to redo some rigging.

TWA animation had to be adjusted for the port side, works nicely now.

I do have a question regarding the COD passenger door and cargo door workings.
Is the passenger door hinged on the Cargo door (appears to be).
Does the passenger door have to be opened before the cargo door is opened as a result?

Thanks for the help.
 
You bet!

Finally got the windows and doors 3D and animated, and interior fuselage of cabin built to accommodate them.
Punching in all these holes means a lot of hand rework of the fuselage so it takes some time.
Worked on antennas a bit but still need to redo some rigging.

TWA animation had to be adjusted for the port side, works nicely now.

I do have a question regarding the COD passenger door and cargo door workings.
Is the passenger door hinged on the Cargo door (appears to be).
Does the passenger door have to be opened before the cargo door is opened as a result?

Thanks for the help.

Funny you asking that! I was looking that up today in the NATOPS manual. The passenger is hinged on the forward side to the Cargo door, which is hinged on the forward side also and is actually bolted closed. The passenger door latches open at about 90 degrees. When un-bolted the cargo door then opens and is restrained by a bar attached to the door and fuselage. So the answer is yes, the passenger door must be opened and latched before the cargo door can be opened. The cargo door opens about 100-110 degrees. The picture is in figure 8-4 which is on page 8-8 of the flight manual.

Cheers,
Dave
 
Well, I'm finally movin' on up. I just ordered a copy of FS2004 after all these years, and can't wait to see this beauty flying around in it. Keep up the good work, guys, and thanks.
 
Funny you asking that! I was looking that up today in the NATOPS manual. The passenger is hinged on the forward side to the Cargo door, which is hinged on the forward side also and is actually bolted closed. The passenger door latches open at about 90 degrees. When un-bolted the cargo door then opens and is restrained by a bar attached to the door and fuselage. So the answer is yes, the passenger door must be opened and latched before the cargo door can be opened. The cargo door opens about 100-110 degrees. The picture is in figure 8-4 which is on page 8-8 of the flight manual.

Cheers,
Dave

Ahhh, thank you Dave for doing the reading while I am buried in gmax. I animated the passenger door, but linked to the cargo door so one would have to open before the other. It works fine but one could open the cargo door and do some serious damage to the passenger door and nacelle. :)

Without xml controlling it, I cannot restrict the sequence of things.
 
That weight and lbs per gallon is for the old D-75F retardant. If you would like the weight and lbs per gallon for the new P-100 retardant I can get that for you.

If not too much trouble, that would be good info to have. Thanks. :)

Well, I'm finally movin' on up. I just ordered a copy of FS2004 after all these years, and can't wait to see this beauty flying around in it. Keep up the good work, guys, and thanks.

That's great to hear! I plan however to provide FS2002 versions although in some ways constrained. So, if FS9 causes you pain, all is not lost.
 
Project Team Roles and Responsibilities, and Assignments

Here is what I have for now for who is doing what based on my understanding of commitments.

There are open slots so if interested, let us know.

I am leaving the slots for the S2F-1 for Javis to fill as I am not sure yet what he wishes to do himself.

Note that I purposely left off all the many source data contributors trying to focus on the aircraft package contents instead.
We appreciate all the efforts of the SOH members in his thread to help pull this project off in record time.
 
Uncle Milton,

I will be honored to do the FSX conversion for the rest of the models for you. I've been on the sideline for a bit, bit I should get into the groove converting the models over for you:ernae:
 
Uncle Milton,

I will be honored to do the FSX conversion for the rest of the models for you. I've been on the sideline for a bit, bit I should get into the groove converting the models over for you:ernae:

Thank you euroastar; we appreciate your efforts. :applause:
 
Ahhh, thank you Dave for doing the reading while I am buried in gmax. I animated the passenger door, but linked to the cargo door so one would have to open before the other. It works fine but one could open the cargo door and do some serious damage to the passenger door and nacelle. :)

Without xml controlling it, I cannot restrict the sequence of things.

Milton,

I would imagine if you linked the passenger door to shift + e and the cargo door to shift+e then 2 that should suffice for controlling it. Manfred Jahn's C-121's cargo and passenger door is animated like that. Works fine!

Dave
 
Thanks for the info, will go with the 10,200 lbs for a full tank. A lot of weight for a little bird!

Cheers: T
 
Milton,

I would imagine if you linked the passenger door to shift + e and the cargo door to shift+e then 2 that should suffice for controlling it. Manfred Jahn's C-121's cargo and passenger door is animated like that. Works fine!

Dave

That is what I did Dave. One must always remember however to open the passenger door first. :)
 
C-1A in the Home Stretch

Well, added the lavatory doorand panel, and 9 passenger seats.

Now to remap the aircraft and we should be ready for a few of you good folks to check her out to see what we are missing.

I will be out of town Thursday but I hope to finish this up this weekend.
 
Yup and the P-100 is around 8.5lbs per gallon which would be 10,200lbs.

You beat me to it. I had to wait until I got to work today to find out.

For those interested the Cal Fire (CDF) S2Ts will take 1000gal, 1100gal, or a full 1200gal depending on fuel, runway length, wind, and temp.

Here is the break down of weights for both the old D75-F and the new P100-F
GallonsD75-F Phos-Check P-100F Phos-Check
10009400lbs8500lbs
110010,340lbs9350lbs
120011,280lbs10,200lbs


I hope this information helps.
 
You beat me to it. I had to wait until I got to work today to find out.

For those interested the Cal Fire (CDF) S2Ts will take 1000gal, 1100gal, or a full 1200gal depending on fuel, runway length, wind, and temp.

Here is the break down of weights for both the old D75-F and the new P100-F
Gallons
D75-F Phos-Check
P-100F Phos-Check
1000
9400lbs
8500lbs
1100
10,340lbs
9350lbs
1200
11,280lbs
10,200lbs



I hope this information helps.
Thank you fo rthe efforts. Good data to have; well presented.
 
Well, added the lavatory doorand panel, and 9 passenger seats.

Now to remap the aircraft and we should be ready for a few of you good folks to check her out to see what we are missing.

I will be out of town Thursday but I hope to finish this up this weekend.
Did you add the flush handle!? :icon_lol:
 
Hey Uncle Milton, im just wondering. Do you plan on doing the radial CDF tankers and maybe the French (Not sure if they had a Radial version or not...) and ConAir (Radial and Turbine) ones? I dont think there are many other tanker variants of the foreign kind that are much different. Of course i can be corrected.
 
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