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Stolen Work Part2

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So, I was just informed that this kid, Spencer Lever, who has been stealing not just mine but others work... had uploaded my Hornet cockpit to http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/, which is sort of like Turbosquid where people can buy your models.
This dude has been pretty brazen in his fascination with my model and converting it for sale or use in DCS (as DCS: F18C), or to be used with online stunt teams and the like. What's more annoying is that he had asked me quite a while to go to help him learn 3D modeling, as all he knew how to do at the time was modify existing models.

With that knowledge and knowing that he has a penchant for taking other peoples' material, I did a quick search with his name and the website to see what else he might have "borrowed' from others. If anyone recognizes these models or happens to know the authors, PLEASE let me know so I can get them removed from the site!

My work:
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=69074
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 24 May 2014 into Aircraft - Other 3D Models.

Hawker Hunter
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=66123
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 9 April 2013 into Aircraft - Airplanes - Jet Fighters 3D Models.

.44 Magnum Silenced Gun
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=66124
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 9 April 2013 into Weapons - Pistols 3D Models.

He apparently took this guys money to do a mod for DCS, Jim Blim. He apparently tried to sell his work as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0CWLXaQ4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3RNPxhX6M4

I know he's also stolen a Hawk model, but I can't find any evidence of that anymore (was on his Facebook page).

Anywho, there's not a whole lot that can be done to stop him. But I will spread the word to ensure other modelers or potential "customers" don't get burned by him. Also, if you're a modeler, try as best you can to keep tabs on your work (nearly impossible, to be sure). An awesome kid on Facebook informed me of this particular event.

Jamal Ingram


 
Hi Friends,
I also found on 3DCadbrowser many 3D models of mine, all Italian WWII tanks and Railroad models (steam locos and passenger cars) I uploaded more than 10 years ago on 3DCafe as freeware (L-6/40, L3-35, FIAT 3000 and Lancia LZM), all these models are uploaded there by someone WITHOUT my authorization, but I don't know if the site offers these models as freeware or ask money for them....

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Dave, MVG,
They removed my model VERY quickly, just got the reply to my request this morning! Shoot them a message to their support if you haven't yet, subject Copywright, and I think they'll hook it up quickly.

Really sorry this happened to you guys. If you have the energy to do it, post on as many forums as you can think of about this kid and what he's done. There's alot of thieves out there, and he may not be as prolific, but he does seem to be one of the most directly confrontational about it.

Jamal
 
mvg3d said:
Hi Friends,
I also found on 3DCadbrowser many 3D models of mine, all Italian WWII tanks and Railroad models (steam locos and passenger cars) I uploaded more than 10 years ago on 3DCafe as freeware (L-6/40, L3-35, FIAT 3000 and Lancia LZM), all these models are uploaded there by someone WITHOUT my authorization, but I don't know if the site offers these models as freeware or ask money for them....

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Heya mvg,
You have to have a pay account after you use up so many free downloads:
You're using a free account. To download non-free 3D models, please purchase a non-free account or upload 3D models into catalog.

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So, other way, someone is making money off of the work.

Jamal
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Hi Friends,
I just "explored" the 3DBrowser site, I found almost 10 models of mine, some of them are just a little modified, maybe from the "uploader", in every model's page the pic that shows the mesh cannot mask its "origin"....
I found also many "suspect" aircraft, some of them seem to be directly from FS (exported/converted)..... It seems to be here also the Jens Khristensen's Vultee !!!!!

Here are some "examples"

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=58052
Fiat Ansaldo L6-40 Uploaded by Antonio at 18 June 2012

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=5374
Fiat FT3000 Uploaded by Leonello Calvetti at 26 June 2003

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7533
Fiat L3-33/1 Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=4041
Fiat L6-40 Uploaded by cleusen at 8 March 2007

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=37663
CV35 Uploaded by toby at 6 June 2010

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7531
RENAULT Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7528
LANCIA LZM Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=32455
Steam Locomotive Uploaded by Synoptic at 14 December 2009

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=61724
Train Uploaded by eugene at 4 January 2013

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=14271
European Express Uploaded by susan at 27 November 2007


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mvg3d said:
Hi Friends,
I just "explored" the 3DBrowser site, I found almost 10 models of mine, some of them are just a little modified, maybe from the "uploader", in every model's page the pic that shows the mesh cannot mask its "origin"....
I found also many "suspect" aircraft, some of them seem to be directly from FS (exported/converted)..... It seems to be here also the Jens Khristensen's Vultee !!!!!

Here are some "examples"

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=58052
Fiat Ansaldo L6-40 Uploaded by Antonio at 18 June 2012

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=5374
Fiat FT3000 Uploaded by Leonello Calvetti at 26 June 2003

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7533
Fiat L3-33/1 Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=4041
Fiat L6-40 Uploaded by cleusen at 8 March 2007

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=37663
CV35 Uploaded by toby at 6 June 2010

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7531
RENAULT Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=7528
LANCIA LZM Uploaded by Lexanyh at 2 November 2004

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=32455
Steam Locomotive Uploaded by Synoptic at 14 December 2009

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=61724
Train Uploaded by eugene at 4 January 2013

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=14271
European Express Uploaded by susan at 27 November 2007


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Alright, that's a name to remember as well! I hope they get your items removed, MVG!

Jamal
 
You are lucky to have your models removed.

I got suckered into trading one model, did a lot of work to port it to Strike Fighters then I found out it was a Kazunori Ito's ripped model. I told the site owner and nothing done. The model is still there and I did not get back the credit for the model. I tried to contact Kazunori Ito's but no luck.


Just an example

http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=31175
 
Kid or not, he needs to be prosecuted. Especially since he's continued to do it after being caught the first time.

Jeff
 
Manuele, those Italian tanks look very nice. Its a pity you never finished them. I think they would have nicely fit in Michael Carr's Afrika Korps scenery (when he finds some to finish this....).

I'm not sure the Bf109 is the one from A2A. The fuselage of the A2A model is a bit more square.

Cheers,
Huub
 
huub vink said:
Manuele, those Italian tanks look very nice. Its a pity you never finished them. I think they would have nicely fit in Michael Carr's Afrika Korps scenery (when he finds some to finish this....).

I'm not sure the Bf109 is the one from A2A. The fuselage of the A2A model is a bit more square.

Cheers,
Huub
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Hi Huub,
The models I uploaded on 3DCafe (and now on 3dcadbrowser.....GRRRR !!!) were the first 3d models I made with 3DStudio Max (r2), they weren't made for animation, but only for 3d rendering. I completed all these models and used them as "base" for color profiles I published on a modeller magazine here in Greece, however the polygon's count of all these models prohibits their use in a simulation or scenery (more than 150K).

L1ZM-RH43-3D.jpgL6-LXVII-41-03sm.jpgL6-LXVII-41-3D.jpgL33-SM35_3Dsmall.jpgL33-KT41_3D_small.jpgL338-RSI44_3Dsm.jpg

The '109 on the site seems to be very good, I'm sure the mesh derives from an FS application or similar.
 
One giveaway that the model was ripped is the lack of any canopy glass. The other if you get hold of the model is look at the textures, they are normally in dds format and have 8 letter/numbers, something like this 0ab91d3e.dds
But it seems that there are a few rip tools going around now.
 
ST0RM said:
Kid or not, he needs to be prosecuted. Especially since he's continued to do it after being caught the first time.

Jeff
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I in no way would advocate such behavior. However, in digital media, where does it end?

In specific to those concerned about FS models;

If a .mdl is reverse engineered, then the very mesh itself will be compromised. If it is re-exported as another file type, be it .obj, .3ds, .fbx, whatever, it is no longer a .mdl by a significant margin. This isn't copy/paste.

1. ) The pirated model would need legal documents to prove it's copyright/ownership

2. )A detailed comparison of subjects would have to be made by an inter-medium to determine that the 'pirated' example is such.

3. ) And then a legal charge.

How much is it worth? And would you even have the means for step 1?


- Joseph
 
spins_vmfa321 said:
So, I was just informed that this kid, Spencer Lever, who has been stealing not just mine but others work... had uploaded my Hornet cockpit to http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/, which is sort of like Turbosquid where people can buy your models.
This dude has been pretty brazen in his fascination with my model and converting it for sale or use in DCS (as DCS: F18C), or to be used with online stunt teams and the like. What's more annoying is that he had asked me quite a while to go to help him learn 3D modeling, as all he knew how to do at the time was modify existing models.

With that knowledge and knowing that he has a penchant for taking other peoples' material, I did a quick search with his name and the website to see what else he might have "borrowed' from others. If anyone recognizes these models or happens to know the authors, PLEASE let me know so I can get them removed from the site!

My work:
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=69074
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 24 May 2014 into Aircraft - Other 3D Models.

Hawker Hunter
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=66123
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 9 April 2013 into Aircraft - Airplanes - Jet Fighters 3D Models.

.44 Magnum Silenced Gun
http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/download.aspx?3dmodel=66124
Uploaded by Spencer Lever at 9 April 2013 into Weapons - Pistols 3D Models.

He apparently took this guys money to do a mod for DCS, Jim Blim. He apparently tried to sell his work as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0CWLXaQ4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3RNPxhX6M4

I know he's also stolen a Hawk model, but I can't find any evidence of that anymore (was on his Facebook page).

Anywho, there's not a whole lot that can be done to stop him. But I will spread the word to ensure other modelers or potential "customers" don't get burned by him. Also, if you're a modeler, try as best you can to keep tabs on your work (nearly impossible, to be sure). An awesome kid on Facebook informed me of this particular event.

Jamal Ingram
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Sorry Jamal, i am angry with him like you :banghead: but did you ever uploaded your Hornet for FSX somewhere? Don' t know it...:screwy: but don't worry, while he shows this only because is a poor guy who don't know to do anything!
 
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