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Cody, when KC refers to working weapons he refers to actually blowing stuff up/shooting aircraft down. Until the MV F-15E and TACPACK appeared on the scene, no other aircraft could actually do that. The vanilla superbug gave the appearance of it but as VRS themselves state it wasnt a true weapon system.
 
Naruto-kun said:
Cody, when KC refers to working weapons he refers to actually blowing stuff up/shooting aircraft down. Until the MV F-15E and TACPACK appeared on the scene, no other aircraft could actually do that. The vanilla superbug gave the appearance of it but as VRS themselves state it wasnt a true weapon system.
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It was capable of shooting aircraft from the game on it's initial release in 2009, and the FSX release in 2010. That said, the VRS video I showed was a working version of the TacPack which was released in 2011. Closed beta on the TacPack begun Feb 1, 2011 which had complete and full weapons implementation. I think it's possibly arguing semantics at this point, but Milviz wasn't the first. I was looking over Jon's shoulder at internal betas of the product that had near complete weapons systems at his house back in 2010.

Jon's work is and has been iconic in this industry. His work and his team has paved the path for future addons to come. I'm not looking to steal anyone else's thunder, but I want to make sure Jon gets the credit he deserves for being such a pioneer coder and team builder in this industry.
 
Semantics...you are right there. We werent the first to think of it thats one thing for sure. First to release a product with it yes. But i seem recall seeing a proof of concept for a Saab Draken that someone was working on (it never got released) back in 2009. So it goes back a long way. I have no intention of getting into an argument with you on this but to rather make sure that our definitions are on the same page.
 
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Semantics...you are right there. We werent the first to think of it thats one thing for sure. First to release a product with it yes. But i seem recall seeing a proof of concept for a Saab Draken that someone was working on (it never got released) back in 2009. So it goes back a long way.
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Some of that technology had been poured over if I recall correctly. I think Jon had some collaboration with them at some point. I can't recall how it all ended up, but Jon knew early on he wanted better weapons implementations on his aircraft. Although he could definitely acquire targets on the radar and remove them from the game with missiles, etc, the new effects and coding wasn't implemented initially. At initial release, he couldn't remove buildings, etc from the game. Although he could shoot down planes, they basically disappeared in a ball of flame. It wasn't exactly what Jon wanted, but it suited the needs of the product at the time. When they finally cracked the code, everything became possible. Now with the TacPack, you can track a ground target via FLIR, blow it up on the ground, and that pretty explosion you always got now sends debris flying and removes the object from the game.

It's been a LOOOONG road to this point, but one of the reasons we put out the initial TacPack video was because there was some stirring of various products with weapons for FSX. We wanted to prove that Jon had been looking into that coding long before for the product. With over 128,000 views of the video on my channel alone, I think the marketing campaign was successful for the most part.
 
Well this thread has become very interesting.

As for what era I am looking for? I have a buddy that worked on the Kittyhawk during Vietnam and he comes over once a week to chat and fly a few FSX planes. I just recently discovered that the Nimtz that is so well done and free was exactly the same as the Kittyhawk so I downloaded that for him to use next time he is over.

Now to find a plane or two. I realize the Bug is a later version but the Kittyhawk had Hornets, A 4 Skyhawks (the plane he managed) and some other aircraft. I wanted to get the most realistic plane because his son is coming to town for a visit and he flew military jets and has FSX and I would like to test him out on the Nimitz and a good plane as I am sure he will know what every little button does and how to use it.

I did look at the A 4 Skyhawk of Virtavia but the Bug really seems to have all the bells and whistles.
 
Cody. It's not semantics. It's clarity. Working weapons implies what? That they can SHOOT down stuff. And the MV bird was the FIRST. And, it is STILL the only one that does it out of the box. Nuff said. (No sniping at all. I'm right in front of you and I'm armed only with the facts)
 
Ok guys cool it please. We're all good friends here and dissent does no one any good.
 
I'd like to have thought that my last post would have got this thread back on topic. Seems that some people need to have the last word, well in this case that would be me!
 
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