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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

T-38A Is OUT!

Can't say enough about this Milviz T-38A

I have more practice time in the T38A than any other plane in my hangar, still not proficient. But honestly, I haven't flown the pattern with other aircraft at all the way I do now. So I am learning from "up to ground" all over again.

Side benefit, flew P-51D "Millie P" to the sweetest landing ever! Remarkable in that I have always bounced and bounced and bounced!! The Cessna 310 was so greased I didn't know it was down.

If I fly the pattern by seat of the pants I do OK, not perfect, but, by the numbers is very challenging to say the least. Just lovin' it all.

Zsolt, those paints are way nice!

Jim
 
heh heh, I'm finally getting this. Circuit bashing last night (did you know she does about 12 circuits to a tank?), first landing - Bang, wayyy too hard, all the others good, better, greased... Still not technically correct - a bit fast so shallow aoa but improving. A bit more practice and I'll be proficient :) great fun model...thanks guys.

LPXO
 
Bone said:
... The majority of us Milviz Beta testers have real world flying jobs. I think it's safe to say we are high time jet pilots, and we recomend this model. The dudes over at the MP sites that are telling people to not buy it...well, go ask them if they fly jets four days a week all day long, or if they just dream about it. Then ask yourself if you want to take advice on what to fly from people who fly jets four days a week all day long, or from people who just dream about it.
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Hi Bone,
I would be more cautious with certain statements, you are not the only <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">real rider who enjoys flight simulators .. a dear friend of mine, for example, even today, after having flown nearly 4000 hours of flight with a lot of military jets, including the F-104, enjoy with FSX... and he could certainly answer that it is not necessary to be pilots to see if the model works or not in multiplayer, moreover he could say that the fact that beta testers were real pilots is an aggravating factor rather than an excuse.
The point is not whether Milviz T-38 is a good model or not, it surely is, the point is that it is not complete without the multiplayer and that it was not declared before to be released to public, someone may have been induced to buy the model to fly it in multiplayer and had a nasty surprise.
Hopefully this unuseless discussion will end soon when Milviz certainly make his beautiful model working in multiplayer.
cheers
/Mario
 
We are definately working on that, Mario.

I guess we would just like to ask that people consider that the jet was also never advertised for multi-player. But, we are certainly working to make it work in MP based on the feedback we are getting. It seems we are by no means alone in terms of trying to overcome technical limits in the way MP in FSX is set up. That is another layer of hurdles we must overcome.

For those who do not play MP, it also must be fairly considered what their desires are. Do they wish to wait another month for release just so we can get MP working when they have no desire to fly it in MP? Anyway, soon as we get the T-38A working in MP (and we will) it will then become a moot point, because as Colin already said, our philosophy will now be to ensure our aircraft function properly in MP.
 
LUCE1 said:
Hi Bone,
I would be more cautious with certain statements, you are not the only real rider who enjoys flight simulators .. a dear friend of mine, for example, even today, after having flown nearly 4000 hours of flight with a lot of military jets, including the F-104, enjoy with FSX... and he could certainly answer that it is not necessary to be pilots to see if the model works or not in multiplayer, moreover he could say that the fact that beta testers were real pilots is an aggravating factor rather than an excuse.
The point is not whether Milviz T-38 is a good model or not, it surely is, the point is that it is not complete without the multiplayer and that it was not declared before to be released to public, someone may have been induced to buy the model to fly it in multiplayer and had a nasty surprise.
Hopefully this unuseless discussion will end soon when Milviz certainly make his beautiful model working in multiplayer.
cheers
/Mario
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Luce1, thanks for the advice on being more cautious, but I don't really think I said anything which would require the advice to be cautious. My statement was/is directed at those who are currently giving widespread advice not to buy the model, simply because there is a temporary MP issue. If they can give advice like that, then I can certainly state my opinion on the matter. I haven't slandered anyone, nor have I caused any damage to their business, nor have I made it personal by directing my statement at a single person by name. Milviz is working the problem out. I passed along your thoughts to the Beta Test forum like you asked. Colin and team have brought some coders in from another project to help work it out. He is very concerned about it, and he has put in place a procedure to make sure all future models work in MP.

As far as real world pilots being an aggravation to the Beta testing process, I think that's a ridiculous thing to say, especially since Simskunkworks has validated the F-104 project with the fact that it's been tested by a real world zipper pilot.
 
Skyhawk_310R said:
We are definately working on that, Mario.

I guess we would just like to ask that people consider that the jet was also never advertised for multi-player. But, we are certainly working to make it work in MP based on the feedback we are getting. It seems we are by no means alone in terms of trying to overcome technical limits in the way MP in FSX is set up. That is another layer of hurdles we must overcome.
For those who do not play MP, it also must be fairly considered what their desires are. Do they wish to wait another month for release just so we can get MP working when they have no desire to fly it in MP? Anyway, soon as we get the T-38A working in MP (and we will) it will then become a moot point, because as Colin already said, our philosophy will now be to ensure our aircraft function properly in MP.
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that is definitely the right way, the multiplayer raises the level of realism and enjoyment of many steps without any chance of getting bored.
good work :)
/mario
 
Bone said:
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As far as real world pilots being an aggravation to the Beta testing process, I think that's a ridiculous thing to say, especially since Simskunkworks has validated the F-104 project with the fact that it's been tested by a real world zipper pilot.
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may be my bad english made me misunderstood, what i meant is that real-pilots beta-testers should have discovered far before than others the multiplayer problems.
cheers
/mario
 
Seems like the Milviz team have stated that they're looking for a fix so I guess that's an end to that debate. I've never wanted to fly multi-player so it's not an issue for me.
The aircraft looks great but I don't do much kerosene burning so for now I'll just watch:engel016:
 
LUCE1 said:
the multiplayer raises the level of realism and enjoyment of many steps without any chance of getting bored.

real-pilots beta-testers should have discovered far before than others the multiplayer problems.
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Even with 14000+ hrs of RL flying I never used multiplayer.
I don't know why FSX should be more realistic with MP and despite flying around alone I never got bored in any sim.
Guess I'm happy when at least in FSX there's no one around I need to talk to or to watch out for.
 
Do not care if you are a real world pilot. Do not care if you want to fly in multiplayer. Just know that my first question about any new release is going to be: Does it work in multiplayer? Thank you milviz for your time and efforts to solve this.
 
Meshman said:
I knew I had seen something, somewhere about MP performance and the noggin finally came through! Whether this applies or not, I cannot say. Maybe Fr. Bill has seen this posting over at the Lockheed forums?

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=324

I hope it's readable without sign up, but sign up is simple enough.
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That is a very cool website... very nice. Thank you for posting.

@Milviz, Thank you guys again for making a commitment to resolve this -- it is much appreciated.
 
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