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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

T-38A Is OUT!

bstolle said:
'flat' is an optical illusion in the video Bill posted because I've flown this approach with a 0.33 zoom setting (to have all the instruments in view).
Until the 'transition' the rate of descend is average 900fpm.
The ground speed is 155kts which means that glidepath is even slightly more steep than the standard 3deg.
Furthermore the VASIS are all red because you don't want to cross the threshold at 50ft in the T-38 so the 3deg glidepath is actually 'parallel' to the ILS or visual glideslope.
That of course makes another 'too low' impression.
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That was one thing that caused question marks to pop up over my head when watching Bill's video. I kept thinking "how the heck can he keep descending at 700-900 FPM, while being that low the whole time? What sort of magic plane is this?" :icon_lol: My landings are getting pretty good (says the student pilot!) In truth I busted the gear twice, so far, but I haven't done that in a long time now. I think I'm ready for a real one now, hehe.
 
Having talked with some T-38 drivers out at Randolph AB, they have the same problem on their first few landings.... dropping it in from 10 feet, or slamming it into the ground and bouncing..... it just takes time and experience.

I wouldn't worry too much about "flying it by the numbers," just fly it naturally, react to what you see, and be a pilot. Don't over think the problem.... just fly it naturally.

Great aircraft Milviz.
:salute::salute::salute::salute:
 
neutrino said:
It's basic flight fundamentals, you can read it in any book about flying :icon_lol:
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Along with being a top notch FDE designer for FSX (he did the Milviz T-38), Bernt is a B-767 Captain for an International Flag Carrier. He's most likely forgoten more about flying airplanes than most people have even learned. No worries about anything, I just thought I'd put that down on record.
 
neutrino said:
Unless the aerodynamics in the Air Force are different from the NAVY, you use POWER to control ALTITUDE (climb/descent rate), and you use STICK to control AOA (speed).

If you only add power, in the short run (couple of seconds) the jet will accelerate, but then it will start to climb and oscillate back to its original speed/AOA. No stick will be necessary to achieve this new climb rate. Therefore, it is said that power is the primary control for altitude. In reality, to speed up the process, you always help with the stick so that the jet starts to climb without accelerating first, and then you release the stick.

Same thing for speed. If you only pull back on the stick a little, the AOA will increase and the aircraft will initially climb, but then it will lose some speed and settle to its original climb/descent rate but at a lower speed. Again, no power change, just stick. Therefore, the stick is the primary control for AOA, which determines speed. In reality, if you want to decrease speed, you may pull back on the throttle initially to prevent the climb, but then you have to add that back.
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I would prefer to think of glideslope as the ideal path in the air you wish to maintain and angle-of-attack as the primary speed reference (and if you aren't fortunate enough to have an accurate AoA indicator) to use indicated airspeed instead.

Pitch and power is used in harmony to maintain both speed and ideal glidepath. Neither can be removed from the other, but for smoothness should be considered partners in the effort.

If you find yourself low, you add power and increase pitch. If you find yourself high, you decrease power and pitch. If you are slow but on glideslope, you can add power withoutchange in pitch. If you are fast but on glideslope you can reduce power without change in pitch. But, ultimately it tends to be small corrections in pitch and power more or less continuously.

Anyway, that's how I was taught to do it. But, there is some art work involved in flying.

Again, guys, the key to happiness in the pattern with this jet is speed. That green donut on the AoA is a nice mark, but not something likely to sustain for any long time, and the red arrow is very bad and should be avoided until you are flaring to touchdown to at least transitioning to the flare over threshold with landing assured and committed to.

So, this means that the "perfect" AoA index indication should really be the yellow arrow with the green donut thrown in cycling on and off repeatedly in concert with the constant yellow arrow.

Then, try to maintain optimal glidepath while managing the speed and pitch combination.
 
Does anyone noticed that is something wrong with the aft canopy in the external model?When opens it looses a piece that otherways is firmly attached to the canopy?
 
mohawk3 said:
Does anyone noticed that is something wrong with the aft canopy in the external model?When opens it looses a piece that otherways is firmly attached to the canopy?
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Not sure what you ment here.....
Can you post a screenshot, showing the issue?
 
Repaints?

I am thinking repaints are going to be scarce because anyone who has this airplane is going to be flying instead of painting!!! :icon_lol:

Never have I spent so many hours shooting touch n go!! I can just almost do it by the numbers now. So bring on that F-15.

Programmed my Warthog to run off FSUIPC4 and now I can push actual buttons/switches to start the jet. Thank you for the macros!

Still lovin' the Talon

Jim
 
JAllen said:
Never have I spent so many hours shooting touch n go!! I can just almost do it by the numbers now. So bring on that F-15.
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I can tell you that after month of flying exclusively the T-38, touch & gos with F-15 are just relaxing.

Flying the Eagle definitely feels like the reward for mastering the T-38 :icon_lol:
 
Ok, I'm getting close to purchasing this bird based on the wonderful screenshots. Can I use a keyboard, or is it joystick operation only?

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JAllen said:
I am thinking repaints are going to be scarce because anyone who has this airplane is going to be flying instead of painting!!! :icon_lol:

Never have I spent so many hours shooting touch n go!! I can just almost do it by the numbers now. So bring on that F-15.

Programmed my Warthog to run off FSUIPC4 and now I can push actual buttons/switches to start the jet. Thank you for the macros!

Still lovin' the Talon

Jim
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Errr, explain the macros. I too have the Warthog and would love to expand it's capabilities. Do I need to purchase FSUIPC4 versus the freeware variant?

Thanks and apologies for sidebarring just a sec from such a great plane.

Matt
 
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