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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

TBM announcement and question

skyhawka4m

skyhawka4m

Charter Member
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<!-- Post Text and Main Content -->We are pleased to announce that the TBM Avenger will be released for sale on the 27th June. The Avenger will be available as a Digital Download and also as a Retail Box.
The differences between the Digital Download and Retail Box is the Retail Box will come with an additional 20 paintschemes bringing the total to 26 highly detailed liveries for the same price. Where as the Digital Download will come with 6 paint schemes.
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My question is, does anyone know if the other paints that come in the boxed version will be available as an add-on?
 
Guess I won't be buying the download then.

Not sure what the benefit to VS is from selling the boxed version rather than the download, but hopefully there is one as otherwise it seems odd that they'd charge the same for less with the download version.

Personally I would have preferred both the boxed and download versions to be the same and they charged for an extra paint pack; I tend to buy most of my aircraft as downloads, but 20 paints is a lot to turn down just for an instant download.

Looks like a nice model though
 
Well to be fair I don't see pricing as of yet so...it is possible that the paints will be available as an add-on, lets hope.
 
  • 6 historically accurate and detailed paint schemes (Digital Download Only) + ( payware addon with 14 new skins? )
  • An additional 20 historically detailed paint schemes (Retail Box Only)
 
why pay extra for 14 paints ????

theres 1000s of painters out there that will do it for free, i wont be surprised if painters will do those 14 anyway
 
Digital and boxed are the same price, around $34/5 dependant on the exchange rates.

Differences between both are

6 paints in the digital
26 paints in the Boxed



jeansy why pay extra for 14 paints ????
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Who said your paying more for the boxed ? we certainly haven't, and its not 14, its 20.
 
Deano said:
Digital and boxed are the same price, around $34/5.

Differences between both are

6 paints in the digital
26 paints in the Boxed



Who said your paying more for the boxed ? we certainly haven't, and its not 14, its 20.
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thank you deano

i stand corrected my mistake i miss read a post above

i have to ask why then is the download the same for less, im no retailer so please explain
 
jeansy said:
thank you deano

i stand corrected my mistake i miss read a post above

i have to ask why then is the download the same for less, im no retailer so please explain
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We usually release 6 paints with a digital download, however on some occasions we have released more. As for the reason behind more in the boxed release, it's a marketing decision. In the past we have released the additional paints as an addon, and a few customers also complained about that.
 
Deano said:
We usually release 6 paints with a digital download, however on some occasions we have released more. As for the reason behind more in the boxed release, it's a marketing decision. In the past we have released the additional paints as an addon, and a few customers also complained about that.
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cheers and fair enough
 
On the question of why, perhaps it was to save 200 megs on the download size. Offering something on CD that is near a Gig of data is easier then selling a Gig download. Think, if 50 people bought this, the amount of data transfer that would be on the server(s). But if its down to 200 megs.... Its more 'realistic'. I am sure the would offer those repaints on the side as an additional download. This is my thoughts, probably wrong, but just thinking in a rational direction of 'why'.

Same reason I do not have a ton of repaints on my Dynamic. Saving massive download sizes... Some people still have slow internet providers and they freak if its 100 megs or more.
 
Deano said:
There are no current plans to release the additional paints as a download.
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I guess it will take quite some time before the boxed version will be available in the Netherlands, if at all. The other option would be purchasing the box as a mail-order(which will cost me an extra mail-fee).

In order to make a decision which i will purchase (e.g. box or download): Can you provide a list of what paints are included in the boxed version?

Edit: what i have seen so far, this bird looks amazing! If the same quality as the F9F is matched, i'll be a very happy customer.
 
Deano said:
We usually release 6 paints with a digital download, however on some occasions we have released more. As for the reason behind more in the boxed release, it's a marketing decision. In the past we have released the additional paints as an addon, and a few customers also complained about that.
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Perhaps a bit OT, and absolutely not meant in a negative way of any kind, but....

A boxed version concerns burning and labeling disks, as well as printing booklets and boxes. A boxed version will require a separate download-section for patches (when updates need to be published), since it is a rather static release. They also comprehence shipping to retailers (when not ordered by Vertigo directly) who also want a piece of the pie. How does this make it cost-effective, and how does it make the difference between 6 or 26 liveries?
A small disclaimer here; i know a lot (by profession) about military in general, military (aviation) history, navigation, mapping etc. But i know almost nothing about commercial trading.

I sincerely hope Vertigo gives a big motivation to pull me over the fence to buy boxed instead of download. As you might already have noticed with the great F9F; i'll make my own repaints if and when i need them anyway (shared or not).

One way or another, i sure am on the lookout for this great bird! A real winner IMHO!
 
no one at vstudios has mentioned anything in regards to what is and is not cost effective.

We have stated that there will be '2' ways of purchasing the TBM, one is via download and one is via boxed, the boxed will have an additional 20 paints.

The product details are clearly displayed on our website so whether this gives motivation or not is not for me to say.

And lastly, we're aware on how to run our business model, if this doesn't fit in to (some) customers plans in regards to "this how vertigo studios should run there business" then I'm sorry that we have disappointed everyone.
 
Deano said:
no one at vstudios has mentioned anything in regards to what is and is not cost effective.

We have stated that there will be '2' ways of purchasing the TBM, one is via download and one is via boxed, the boxed will have an additional 20 paints.

The product details are clearly displayed on our website so whether this gives motivation or not is not for me to say.

And lastly, we're aware on how to run our business model, if this doesn't fit in to (some) customers plans in regards to "this how vertigo studios should run there business" then I'm sorry that we have disappointed everyone.
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Hi Deano, the question was merely out of interest.
Since i'm a potential customer, it seems i have no say whatsoever in "how Vertigo does business" at all, but that does not bother me a bit.
I was just curious where and how the decision was made between the two different delivery methods and their contents.
It was not meant as an offence (against you or Vertigo).

I hope you still want to list up the liveries that will be included in the boxed version (i seem to have failed finding them at the Vertigo website)?
 
Here you go Warrant :)

Main pack textures

texture=BarbIII
variation=Barbara III

texture=707NAS
variation=JZ670 AH8X 707 NAS RNAS Burscough 1945

texture=VC-42
variation=VC-42, CVE-9, USS Bogue. ca.1945

texture=VC-68
variation=White 81, VC-68, CVE-70, USS Fanshaw Bay ca.1944

texture=VC-96-80
variation=80, VC-96, CVE-81, USS Rudyerd Bay, ca.1945

texture=VT-45
variation=Black8, VT-45, CVL-30, USS San Jacinto, ca.1945



Addon descriptions

texture=855NAS
variation=JZ490 855 NAS RNAS Donibristle 1945

texture=Plonky
variation="Plonky" NZ-TBM

texture=Flight19-28
variation=Flight 19, 28, Ft Lauderdale FL, 1946

texture=VC-13
variation=Black 25, VC-13, ca.1945

texture=VC-83
variation=White 80, VC-83, CVE-83, USS Sargent Bay ca.1945

texture=VC-88
variation=VC-88, CVE-82, USS Saginaw Bay. ca.1945

texture=VC-93
variation=VC-93, CVE-80, USS Petrof Bay. ca.1945

texture=VC-96-99
variation=99, VC-96, CVE-81, USS Rudyerd Bay, ca.1945

texture=VC-97
variation=VC-97, CVE-91, USS Makassar Strait. ca.1945

texture=VMBT-132
variation=Yellow 54, VMBT-132, CVE-109, USS Cape Gloucester, ca.1945

texture=VMBT-242
variation=White 276, VMBT-242, ca.1945

texture=VT-6
variation=15, VT-6, CV-19, USS Hancock, ca.1946

texture=VT-7
variation=124, VT-7, CVE-81, USS Hancock, ca.1944

texture=VT-9
variation=133, VT-9, CV-10, USS Yorktown, ca.1944

texture=VT-12
variation=White7, VT-12, CV-15, USS Randolph, ca.1945

texture=VT-20
variation=Black133, VT-20, CV-16, USS Lexington, ca.1945

texture=VT-46
variation=White 33, VT-46, CVL-22, USS Independence ca.1945

texture=VT-51
variation=Black 8, VT-51, CVL-30, USS San Jacinto, ca.1944

texture=VT-83
VT-83, CV-9, USS Essex. ca.1945

texture=VT-84
301, VT-84, CV-17, USS Bunker Hill, ca.1945
 
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