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Motto

The translation is:
thank you but we know that already. Our historian the Group CO from 1943-46 is going to email one of the last living veterans who were there from the formation of the Group here in the USA and see if he remembers its source.
 
thank you but we know that already. Our historian the Group CO from 1943-46 is going to email one of the last living veterans who were there from the formation of the Group here in the USA and see if he remembers its source.

That would be great to know. I bet there's a story there.
 
Lost In History

I'm afraid that it still may remain a mystery like so many others lost in the past but here is what we DO know according to our 461st Historian whose father was the commanding officer and spoke several languages he says:

It does appear to be Spanish. I checked with Google myself and discovered
something interesting. Starting with "Al Ataque", the detection is that
it's Spanish, but the translation to English only says "Attack". I get
nothing from Italian or Latin. If I start with "To the Attack" and asked
for a translation to Spanish, Italian and Latin, the only one that comes
close is Spanish which gives me "Al Ataque". Looks like it's definitely
Spanish.

As to who came up with it, I still think my father did, but I can't prove
it. I did talk with a veteran, but he can't remember that level of detail.
He was there, but all he remembers is it suddenly appeared. He said he had
come up with the lightning bolt that was on the bomb. The details about who
was involved after that is lost in time.

:icon_question:
 
I'm afraid that it still may remain a mystery like so many others lost in the past but here is what we DO know according to our 461st Historian whose father was the commanding officer and spoke several languages he says:

It does appear to be Spanish. I checked with Google myself and discovered
something interesting. Starting with "Al Ataque", the detection is that
it's Spanish, but the translation to English only says "Attack". I get
nothing from Italian or Latin. If I start with "To the Attack" and asked
for a translation to Spanish, Italian and Latin, the only one that comes
close is Spanish which gives me "Al Ataque". Looks like it's definitely
Spanish.

As to who came up with it, I still think my father did, but I can't prove
it. I did talk with a veteran, but he can't remember that level of detail.
He was there, but all he remembers is it suddenly appeared. He said he had
come up with the lightning bolt that was on the bomb. The details about who
was involved after that is lost in time.

:icon_question:

Thanks a lot for your interest and your inquires. "Al ataque" is the most common war cry of the Spanish troops when we charge against our enemies. It is not surprising to find Spanish words in many states of the USA (in fact, "los Angeles", "Florida", "Colorado" and "Nevada" are Spanish words, as a few examples), but it was more surprising for me to see a Spanish war cry as the motto of a modern bombing group founded in Utah in 1940.
 
An Open Invitation To All WWII AAF Fighter Pilots

This is an open invitation to join us for a Training Mission from Torretta, Italy in WWII. Ed and I are at Torretta and anxiously awaiting the Flight Replicas B-24 package to be released. In the meantime, we are going to do some fun flying each Monday until that happens. We will be flying the IRIS P-40 "Kittyhawk"/"Warhawk" in 461st colors but you can join us flying any WWII Allied fighter in your hanger in FSX/SE/P3D[any version] in Join FS. We start in Teamspeak 3 in our dedicated 461st channel in the SOH server at 14:30 UTC for preflight briefing and check everyone's comm's. We are hoping that we'll get you to join us for a fun flight of an hour or so in the air. In this download is the PDF Mission Briefing as well as downloads of our aircraft so that we can see each other. If you are going to join us please PM me before Saturday 8 February 23:59 UTC with what aircraft you will be flying so that everyone can either match it exactly in JoinFS or get close to it so that we don't have a bunch of default C172's LOL:biggrin-new: as happens in "model-matching". Here is the download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uio56nu1kvgm7s1/Training_Mission_2.pdf/file
 
Tuskegee Airmen

If you watched the SOTU last night, the highlight in my opinion was the promotion of the LAST surviving Tuskegee Airman, 100 years young to General. That was fantastic and long overdue. The 332nd FG, the Tuskegee Airmen escorted many flights of the 461st Bomb Group and you could honor them by flying with us as a Fighter Escort in either a P-40, P-47 or a P-51 payware OR freeware if you don't want to fly a B-24. Start this Monday. Download all you need above. See ya'all there.

Richard :loyal:
 
A preview of Monday's mission.

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I flew along the whole route of the AI B-24's today while testing the FSCAI mission that I've written and it was a Hoot!
 
Does anyone know if there is any sort of bomb site that can be added to the Alphasim B-24J?
 
B-24 Norden Bombsight

Gyspy Baron of the 91st BG created one on their site where I am a member for the A2A B17G Accusim for members only. He modified it for their Desert Campaign Alphasim/Virtavia B24 which I also flew with them. I sent him a special request and we were generously given permission to share it with our members of the 461st BG but it is not readily available for download.
 
From Monday to Tuesday

Because of unexpected real life issues, the Mission Training #2 has been changed to Tuesday from Monday, 2/11 instead of 2/10. There is still a chance for you to fly it with us. Just follow the instructions in the download and see ya at Torretto at 15:00Z. Set your sim clock for 10:00 Italy Local Time. Weather is in the server when you join "Join FS".
 
Cancelled Training

We will have to cancel the fighter escort Mission #2 for this week. Sorry if you wanted to fly with us for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will post here again when we re-schedule this Mission Training #2. Hope you all have a good week.
 
Making progress

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With help from Dutch and Chris I finally have the AI dropping bombs! if you look closely at the screenshot you can see them being dropped. And yes, these weapons have been incorporated into the 461st's FSX@War pack so that if they actually manage to hit anything it will damage/destroy the object. From what I've experienced so far they drop over the target, but most are misses. Kind of like my dumb bomb drops.
 
It looks like bombs were commonly released at altitudes between 18k and 25k. Does anyone know what the most common air speeds were used during drops?

I really like flying the Alpha Liberator. One of my great uncles was a B-24 pilot and flew on the Ploesti raids.
 
Missions

Hey Stubby,

Come and join us you can fly your Liberator OR download our Tackpack equipped Liberator in 461st "Colors" from our website. We would love to have you on board. I can send you the texture and aircraft.cfg entry for one of the noseart versions that Ed and I have not assigned.
 
I have been working from this as a base line it's not real accurate for FSX/P3D, but it's a starting point.
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I'm still sorting out my new PC, but I'm seriously considering joining in.

Back in the day I use to fly the online sim "Aces High" (and AirWarrior), and participated in some their online scenarios. There would be hundreds of participants in each event, as well as AI. I usually flew on the Axis side though, since I like to be the underdog.



Hey Stubby,

Come and join us you can fly your Liberator OR download our Tackpack equipped Liberator in 461st "Colors" from our website. We would love to have you on board. I can send you the texture and aircraft.cfg entry for one of the noseart versions that Ed and I have not assigned.
 
Seeing as Richard and Ed have kindly shown interest in the upcoming Flight Replicas B-24, just thought that you might like to see the 461st paint scheme. :)

This aircraft was one of those that had two names - in this case, "She Wolf" and "Irish Angel II".

Mike


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Thank You

Hey Mike,
That looks great! She is one of the 765th BS "replacement" aircraft in natural metal replacing Arsenic and Lace lost on 17 Dec 1944 on Mission #151 to the Odertal Refinery in Germany.

I did the first 12 original aircraft noseart in OD finish on the Virtavia (Alphasim). I hope that your paintkit will have a layer for the OD so that when it is out I can redo all of the 12 originals from my artwork onto the FR B24J. :applause:
 
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