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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

The Important announcement from Ickie..

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And to add,

The members that are here who do interact with forum know the benefits. How you or any members perceive that information and go with it, it's up to them. I can honestly say that SOH is the best flight simulator forum there is on the net. I've learned a lot. I've shared in return and helped where I can. What can I say? Sim-Outhouse is all I need for me to enjoy the hobby of flight simming.
 
It is so easy to put a 'negative spin' on anything if you really try. I am amazed. I am new to forums and especially SoH. I greatly appreciate this site and that's due to everyone here. Any time I can contribute some little thing it is a thrill. A few dollars to keep it going... money well spent. Stay positive everybody, being negative causes wrinkles. LOL

Jim

Long live SoH
 
I donated before the download speed announcement, not because of it and I donated last year when there was no "additional incentive". I enjoy my time here in the forums and the people I've met, figuratively, through them. If you hang out around here the information and talents you can learn from these marvelous people border on priceless. It is a pleasure to be able to help out in some small way.
 
I don't post often, don't think I've ever downloaded anything, and didn't even notice there are no ads. I donated to keep a great community ticking happily away.

Thanks to all SOH staff for keeping a great site going!
 
server bandwith cost a lot, yes you can take a server for less money but then you will have a server with many problems, often not online, with secutiry problems, with bad performances and more...many people think having a website about something of fun do not cost nothing or low money...take a server up takes a lot of money, when a website then disappear they say ooooooh...there is not anymore...the cause? cost! there is no need to be agree or not agree, if you want continue having a website people have to support it not only say i will never visit or i m not agree....there are five or six websites that have a very good library of files since 10 years and more and this is a fantastic resource for cfs1-2-3- and all fs world. What if all new people coming in the fs world didn't have that resource? Probably this hobby will not continue And more a website is succesfull much money needs. You daily pay for something you need, a coffe a newspaper or something else, why not a website that you like?
 
There's many a good reply here, but the one to keep in mind id 'you get what you pay for'.
IIRC almost all the better known FS sites have limits to non-subscribers, either download speed limits, number of downloads over a given time or download size limits.
SOH is a bargain with more bang for your buck than any other FS Site.

The only other site I actually subscribe to is a 'Motor Race Forum', where non paying members get 100MB over 24 hours and more advertising than any sane person should have to put up with.
I don't 'need' any privileges, but I believe in supporting a worthwhile cause.
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I don't often use the filebase, not much there for me :) I don't often post because I have nothing useful to add to most threads, I don't always agree with some of the stuff that goes on here, but I depend on SOH for unbiased (though sometimes opinionated) news about the hobby. Sure I could spend 18 hours a day reading forums, or I could come here and get the digest version. I'm retired and on a fixed income but the little bit I can throw in the kitty will help keep this resource available. I hope I'll be around next year to kick in a few more bucks.
 
The two things - among a number of others - valued most here are:

1) sharing of know-how - it saves signficant time when one is "stumped" by a problem only to have some kind help from people here and presto! it's sovled; and

2) the shared enthusiasm and camraderie with others with respect to our common interest in avaition and its history.

Not to mention the good nature, good humor and above all the generosity of people here in sharing their talent and effort. Guess it's a "sharing" kind of place . .
 
I never use the library here so paying for faster download speeds is not an issue. With respect there are better and more established sites for downloading freeware after all and more than one of them at that. I haven't really used much freeware since FS9 anyway, payware has moved on to such a degree that most freeware seems too amateur by comparison now with a few exceptions. I also have no problem whatsoever with advertising and really don't notice it on any of the other sites I visit, FS related or otherwise although I do respect the decision not to have it here even though it means you have to ask for money directly instead when it's not really necessary. If I had to pay a subscription to visit any forum then I would find another one. The other day I visited here and wasn't logged in and all the forums were listed as 'Private' and I had a horrible feeling that SOH was going the 'You have to be registered to view the Forums' route which would be the death of it. The fact is there are lots of FS related sites out there these days populated with most of the same users and most of the same topics day in day out. The general atmosphere is different depending on where you go but the content is basically the same. It's true this is one of the nicer ones most of the time but I'm afraid I have no particular loyalty to this one any more than I do to Avsim, Simviation, FTX etc etc, certainly not to the extent where I would be prepared to pay money to keep this one going one above all others.

I was wondering what was going to happen once the $8000 was reached (it may well have been already - last night it was up to 93% or so). Surely then an announcement will be made that you have what is required to do what you needed the money for and anything collected beyond that will go to charity? I think I would feel very uncomfortable if you kept collecting money which was unaccounted for.
 
$8000 is what is needed to get SOH by for the year, and from time to time things just happen which I have to put out money for and it is nice to have it so it doesn't come out of my pocket. Often it does. Most of the time you never notice the that we are having something wrong which needs fixed and costly. From time to time we donate to good causes, again it is nice to have money on hand.

What I want to know is, why members who never donate, do all the bitching?
 
Hi,

the only benefit I would like to have for my donation is that this great site stays online. We made our goal so quickly this year that I do not see the need to restrict the non-donators. I wish that the members of this forum will donate because of the great community and not because they get restricted otherwise.

I have the fear that the non-donators will feel like 2nd class members and therefore leave the SOH forum. That would be a huge loss for all of us. Also we have to understand that - especially in our current economic situation - it's simply not possible for everyone to donate.

So let's keep the Sim Outhouse fully open to everyone...that would actually be the biggest benefit from our donations! :)

Greetings
Tim
 
the hole/pipline to the internet is only so big, I have to deal with 400 users in the forums at any one time, and 1/3 are downloading, this server can only handle so much, if 400 people was using your computer what would you do. if I let everyone throttle up than these forums would not work or would be so slow. we have always had the download speeds throttled down. I look at the logs everyday this takes hours, and I see people who start 100 downloads and run this all day long and the server loads are running high so I have to do this to keep things running at an even pace. Not to mention the 2/3 of the visitors who never sign up and 1/2 of them bots which is another story. We beg people to ask to be a member+ and the speed is set to 128K for them.

sign up if you want my job, it requires 18 hours a day oh btw no pay, and a vast knolege on running servers. I get hate mail all the time, if you would like this abuse than you are the man!
 
If you want a taste of What Will Happen, then I will turn all restrictions off and walk away.
 
have you had enough, that was just letting them 100 who are just members download at high speen, they took all the bandwidth.

now I have to repair the data base
 
Why don't you just get rid of the library? If it's that much trouble, people will (and do) upload elsewhere. Just get rid of it. Why would that be so bad? Or maybe donate the contents of the library to another site if necessary. Maybe someone else here would like to host it? It sounds like it's not worth the hassle and would make your life much easier if this was just a forum site. I don't know why you would do something if it caused so much grief?

Any takers for the library? Do we know how many files are only hosted here and aren't duplicated in other libraries?
 
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