The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[westview]

Italian maybe?

 

[cthornburg]

Not China, or Italy

Chris

 

[pomme homme]

I think that we have a consensus. We haven't a clue what it is!

 

[cthornburg]

Ok will reveal early. It might be flown by Kim Ill Song (mispelled on purpose). Taken from a video from the 70s from a book on their armed forces. So only know the country and called an assault aircraft. Now you know as much as I on it. I not sure but might have seen one here before from there or maybe this is the first. Open House

Chris

 

[Sopwith Chameleon]

I think it might an Ilyushin IL 10 - they received 50 from the then Soviet Union in the late 1940's

 

[cthornburg]

I assume this is a Frankenstein aircraft. Bit's and pieces of different aircraft. The gear retracts outward so wing not from Il-10.
On doing a little research the wheels could be Il-10 and retract backwards.

Chris

 

[Moses03]

Here is a sporty post-war number.

(Speaking of post-war, where is Walter these days?)

 

[pomme homme]

(Speaking of post-war, where is Walter these days?)

The same thought had occurred to me. Thus I did a little sleuthing. Walter has been conspicuous by his absence since 4 September. Carlo has been absent for even longer. His last appearance here was on 31 May.

 

[lefty]

I e-mailed Carlo back in July, enquiring after his health. Sadly, to date there has been no reply.

As for Walter, we have been indulging in a lot of older machinery recently, so maybe he is lying low.....

 

[pomme homme]

Do we yet know what is the subject of Chris' photograph and why it is so hazy?

 

[Sopwith Chameleon]

My money's on the IL - 10m ....

 

[lefty]

Not a standard Il-10M, Jim, I fear.

Completely different cowl shape.
Rear fuselage much slimmer.
Wing shows distinct inverted gull shape - standard wing completely straight.
Undercarriage track much wider, (and wheels smaller).
Finally, and this the real killer - that ENORMOUS tail unit !

Standard Il-10M on left.

 

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Il- 16 perhaps ? ( Gull wing , smaller wheels - larger tail ? )

 

[Moses03]

(Stepping away from the IL-10 for a moment)...

The sport plane designer was best known for his basket-weave type airframes.

Under construction:

 

[lefty]

Something by Wickers-Armstrong ???

 

[Moses03]

No, but the same kind of Wallis Barnes engineering on a smaller scale of course. The designer has appeared here before with a 1930's twin.

 

[Moses03]

Flown in late 1945.

 

[srgalahad]

Gilbert Experimental? derived from the Yates Oregon O?

 

[Moses03]

Bingo! Suds for Rob.

George Yates, Beaverton OR; St Helens OR.

Gilbert Experimental c.1945 = 2pOlwM post-war version of Oregon O; 125hp Martin 333. [N1333N].

 

[srgalahad]

Thanks, but with 5cm of fresh snow on the ground here, may I opt for a hot toddy?

I thought this one had snuck in here before but it seems not, and not geodetic...