The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[giruXX]

You seem to ask for an unretouched picture? I hope this helps:

 

[pomme homme]

Well, that's definitely not outside the LeClerc supermarket at Niort. Not unless it was at the time of a Beluga Caviar promotion which I missed! Which is rather convoluted way of saying that I don't know and will have to give up!

 

[wout]

Hi giruXX
The very well-known Koltseplan by the Kazan Aviation Institute. Around 1967ish and one of my 210hp engines M337 engines driving the shrouded props and tail pusher. Not certain she ever left the ground. Othedrwise also just called the KAI VTOL.

 

[giruXX]

Wout you got it! I have it in JAWA as Kazan KAI-31 "Koltseplan"

 

[pomme homme]

Hi giruXX
Othedrwise also just called the KAI VTOL.

Dammit. I got the wrong christian name!

 

[wout]

The only picture I ever saw of this stubby single-seater. Anyone has a better pic?

 

[pomme homme]

Could that be the Shapley Kittiwake Mk.I?

Edit: No, I don't think that it is because, on reflection, it doesn't have gull wings and the engine mounting is wrong.

 

[wout]

Not British and a couple of years later (post WW2, AFAIK)

 

[dan_pub]

This Ukraine's Kharkiv Aviation Institute (Kai) VTOL of 1968.
OH please

 

[wout]

The stubby one is from Europe. Not visible are the special construction features (patented).

 

[wout]

Based on the silence, I must assume that nobody has a better picture

 

[giruXX]

That's a reasonable guess

 

[wout]

This is the Brodeau Model 7 (F-WCDN) by André Brodeau. She lacked a true internal structure as the ribs, stiffeners etc. were incorporated in the two fuselage halves, which were then joined using a patented wood-bonding system. The engine was a 45hp Mengin 2B-1 and year was 1947. The aircraft was built as a Proof Of ConceptTechnology Demonstrator.

OH please

 

[pomme homme]

Excellent, Walter. There are numerous references to this seminal post-war 'home built' but no photographs of which I'm aware. But I know who I'm going to ask about the Brodeau Nº 7. And if he doesn't know, I doubt anyone will.

 

[Moses03]

Okay, here is one to consider.

 

[Moses03]

Western Europe, late 1920's...

 

[giruXX]

Wing warping instead of ailerons?

 

[Moses03]

Not that I am aware of.

It was flown in 1928 by an obscure designer. Probably someone that Pomme Homme has info on!

 

[pomme homme]

Oh, Heavens. I've trawled my French info already and not come up with anything. So I'm going to have to ask for twenty - well, maybe a few less - questions. Let's start with - is that a three cylinder Anzani up front?

 

[Moses03]

It is an Anzani Mike. The designer built an amphibian a year or so before this light sport job which was his last solo effort as far as I can tell.

An interesting quirk to this story is that the he passed off this plane to another more well-known builder (think experimental delta winged plane captured and tested by the Germans), who attempted to retrofit it for rocket propulsion in which he nearly blew himself up!

All perfectly clear now.