The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[giruXX]

Which “black beauty” do we have here?

 

[Moses03]

Sorry Carlo, thought I would jump back in on the Piero Magni Vittoria of 1924.

 

[giruXX]

The Piero Magni P.M.2, I-BASF it is!

Would she be colored red? (bella rossa instead of black beauty?)
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[Moses03]

Red sounds reasonable to me.



Apologies for the grainy photo on this one-

 

[Moses03]

It is from Western Europe, early 1920's.

 

[pomme homme]

It looks as if it should be a flying boat, judging from what of the forward fuselage can be discerned in the photograph, but the lack of any sign of floats under the wing suggests otherwise.

 

[Moses03]

Mike, it is an amphibian. One-off unsuccessful prototype from a well known company.

 

[Moses03]

Okay, this is the Liore et Olivier LeO H-6/2 tested in 1920. It's listed at Aviafrance but they are off by one year.

Open board then-

 

[wout]

Small aerobatic single-seater. Sorry form the grainy picture.
If you cannot name her, a better photo is also welcome

 

[pomme homme]

Is it the SAI KZ-8? It looks rather like it but I'd have thought that would be too simple for one of your challenges, Walter!

 

[wout]

Hi PH
Not the KZ-8.
She is European and her name is also used for another aircraft of her birthcountry.

 

[wout]

This is the only other photo I know of.
She is playing gate guardian at her home field. That is one of my 160hp Minor 4-III engines up front.

 

[wout]

Last hint: The other plane with the same name is a jet trainer which is still in service.

 

[fabulousfour]

I guess the plane is Romanian and it is Soim-something, but I can't find any evidence for it in the net.

 

[wout]

Hi fabolousfour
She is indeed named Soim and from Romania. The LIA-88 Soim was developed by IAv Bacău (Intreprinderea de Avioance Bacău) in co-operation with the local Technical Aviation High School.
Only limited testing took place around 1983/1984. She ended her days in the shade of the trees depicted. Wonder whether she still exists.

Your turn, please!

 

[fabulousfour]

I think I'm far away from having solved that mystery, Walter.

LIA-88 has never appeared during my search and until now I have never heard (read!) of it. It is just that it seemed to me that the retouched flag on the tail looked like a Romanian one and the IAR-99 (Soim!) is one of the few European jet trainers still active. So, my guess was just combining both clues.

Nonetheless, here is the next mystery.

 

[fabulousfour]

This is a variant of a trainer from a well known company. It has its own designation.

 

[giruXX]

I have it as: A standard Avro 637 with 'tunnel-type' windscreen for the Kwangsi Air Force, South China.

 

[fabulousfour]

Nothing more to add!

Over to the Black Forrest.

 

[giruXX]

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