The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[pomme homme]

Thank you, Mike. Here's a somewhat minimal aeroplane that doesn't seem to have put in an appearance here hitherto.

 

[wout]

Hi pommehomme
Could this be the Poullin JB-30 light ag-plane (F-WGIR)?

 

[pomme homme]

Not could be, but is! Over to you - and no birds from Vlissingen, please!

 

[wout]

Thanks pommehomme
Like the Scheldemeeuw a tiny aircraft. And it has a bird`s name (sort of)

 

[fabulousfour]

That, Sir, is the M-5 "Phoenix" from N. Masterov in Rossija.

Nice little bird.

 

[wout]

That sir, is 100% correct.
Cheers

 

[fabulousfour]

Here is a wee bird with an unconvential look.

 

[fabulousfour]

Not too much in the net about this bird, however, it is in aerofiles (without photo).

 

[cthornburg]

Stout Batwing?

 

[fabulousfour]

Close, but not the Batwing.

 

[fabulousfour]

It is unclear, whether this bird did really fly.
Aerofiles says, it didn't because of its engine, other sources quote several flights.

 

[lefty]

I presume you are referring to the Stout Cootie - references vary somewhat - Aerofiles says it had a 38hp Sperry-Wills (no wonder it didn't fly!) whilst another source says it was a 150hp Hispano ! Not much difference there, then....

There was an in-depth discussion on Stout confusion on another forum - if I'm right about the Cootie, I'd prefer Chris to have the next go as I wouldn't have been on the right track without his guess.

 

[fabulousfour]

Hi Mike.
Stout Cootie was the answer I wanted to read.
Judging the photos and websites I have found I presume that the Batwing is a different aircraft, perhaps it was a bit pedantic that I insisted in another solution.

A to both of you.

So, if he wants, over to Chris.

 

[fabulousfour]

Back at my controls again, so I can show you why I prefer that the Cootie and the Batwing are different.

2 photos from a similar angle of view, first one the Cootie, second the Batwing.

Nonetheless, over to Chris.

 

[cthornburg]

Thanks for letting me have it. I figured close but no cigar. Anyway does has anyone every found pix of Stout Skycar III? from 1943.

Now for a trimotor.

Chris

 

[Moses03]

Aviafrance has this as a modified S.P.C.A. 40T designated a 218. Have seen another photo of it labeled a 41T.

The register lists it as such:

F-AKDY

S.P.C.A. 40.T > S.P.C.A. 218 > S.P.C.A. 218-2

01

F-AKDY

Etat Francais

09.01.33

3293

Prototype [Per PB - initially SPCA 40T then SPCA 218]

https://www.aviafrance.com/s-p-c-a-218-aviation-france-2321.htm

 

[cthornburg]

That's it I knew it would be easy had it as 41T

Chris

 

[Moses03]

Something different.

 

[lefty]

and it flew ???

 

[pomme homme]

Three possibilities - (1) someone parked a lorry between the camera and a helicopter whilst the photograph was taken ; (2) a totally unknown Raoul Haffner design, the Rotalorry; and (3) it is the French mobile alembic that operates in my area each winter to which, for some inexplicable reason, someone has applied rotor blades - but I rather doubt that it is any of these!