The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.
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pomme homme
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One of the Salmson Cri-Cri variants? If so, probably one of the basic D.6s as I'm not aware of any of the others seeing military service. And is that a Potez 60 Sauterelle behind it?
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Yes and yes, Mike, a Salmson D.6 and a Potez Sauterelle. 
Here is the whole story about that picture.
Since I'm no native French speaker and don't understand the caption completely could you be so kind and translate the caption for us, Mike?
Here is the whole story about that picture.
Since I'm no native French speaker and don't understand the caption completely could you be so kind and translate the caption for us, Mike?
pomme homme
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Thank you, Robert. To your very good health!
My french is not fluent (if only, but even after living in the country for some seventeen years, at my age I doubt that it now will get materially better). The gist of the caption is that the Salmson D6 T2 (construction number 251) will be constructed by the firm SFAN at Issy les Molineaux in 1937 [the use of the future tense does not make much sense to me in context, but that's probably because I'm not a native french speaker]. The [registration] letters F-ARFA adorn the machine that will open [will be the first in the fleet of] the Lucien Boussoutrot Flying Club until requisitioned by the Air Force which will allocate to it the military [serial] number W634. Taken in 1940, this very interesting view also shows a Potez 600 'in uniform'. I hope that this is helpful.
I will post the next 'challenge' later today.
My french is not fluent (if only, but even after living in the country for some seventeen years, at my age I doubt that it now will get materially better). The gist of the caption is that the Salmson D6 T2 (construction number 251) will be constructed by the firm SFAN at Issy les Molineaux in 1937 [the use of the future tense does not make much sense to me in context, but that's probably because I'm not a native french speaker]. The [registration] letters F-ARFA adorn the machine that will open [will be the first in the fleet of] the Lucien Boussoutrot Flying Club until requisitioned by the Air Force which will allocate to it the military [serial] number W634. Taken in 1940, this very interesting view also shows a Potez 600 'in uniform'. I hope that this is helpful.
I will post the next 'challenge' later today.
fabulousfour
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Many thanks for your effort, Mike, that definitely helps! 
pomme homme
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My pleasure, Robert.
Now here's something that wasn't exactly 'mainstream'.
Now here's something that wasn't exactly 'mainstream'.
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Ah, French aircraft designations. Where is lefty when you expect input on the subject!
I think, Kevin, that there may be two separate elytroplans in the identification that you've given. That illustrated is not a de Rougé elytroplan. His predecessor to that illustrated was the 1935 Pollopas. However de Rougé collaborated with Messrs. Lantrès and Bouffort in the production of the Lantrès-Bouffort BL.10 which, I think that I've read, was destroyed by bombing during the Second World War. That is the aircraft whose photograph I posted, which was the predecessor to the better known post-war BL.20. But to cut to the chase, if you didn't give the precisely correct designation you were within a hairsbreadth of it and thus it would be churlish for me to say other than - over to Texas.
Oh, and if anyone else is interested in the elytroplan concept I'd thoroughly recommend reading the posts on the subject at http://aviation-ancienne.forumactif.com/t7239-charles-de-rouge-et-les-elytroplans.
I think, Kevin, that there may be two separate elytroplans in the identification that you've given. That illustrated is not a de Rougé elytroplan. His predecessor to that illustrated was the 1935 Pollopas. However de Rougé collaborated with Messrs. Lantrès and Bouffort in the production of the Lantrès-Bouffort BL.10 which, I think that I've read, was destroyed by bombing during the Second World War. That is the aircraft whose photograph I posted, which was the predecessor to the better known post-war BL.20. But to cut to the chase, if you didn't give the precisely correct designation you were within a hairsbreadth of it and thus it would be churlish for me to say other than - over to Texas.
Oh, and if anyone else is interested in the elytroplan concept I'd thoroughly recommend reading the posts on the subject at http://aviation-ancienne.forumactif.com/t7239-charles-de-rouge-et-les-elytroplans.
Thanks Mike. Sorry for my ham fisted effort there. I was reeling a bit earlier trying to get the designation correct. I guess if you throw enough darts at the board, you will hit the center sooner or later!
With our floater fanatic away on holiday, going to slip one in here and see where it goes.
http://[img]https://i.imgur.com/HLWD3xr.jpg[/img]
With our floater fanatic away on holiday, going to slip one in here and see where it goes.
http://[img]https://i.imgur.com/HLWD3xr.jpg[/img]
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Sitting on our balcony overlooking Funchal harbour, what I would give to see an Aquila Airways Solent landing !
The only form of aerial activity is the odd chopper heading for the pad on the newest monster, the Savoy Hotel.
We popped in for a nosey the other day, and Sheona asked if she could see the pool. 'Which one ? We have 21 pools......'.Aah. said she, but most hotel pools are too small .'. Our longest, madam is 98 metres....'
We shall not be staying there next year.
The only form of aerial activity is the odd chopper heading for the pad on the newest monster, the Savoy Hotel.
We popped in for a nosey the other day, and Sheona asked if she could see the pool. 'Which one ? We have 21 pools......'.Aah. said she, but most hotel pools are too small .'. Our longest, madam is 98 metres....'
We shall not be staying there next year.
...and I'm sure you are doing the right thing! BTW don't forget to taste the cod (Bacalao)…
Enjoy!
Cheers
Carlo
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98 metres, eh. You might just put a microlight floater down in that pool (assuming that it's not indoors). But not, sadly, a Aquila Solent! 
pomme homme
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Please forgive my appalling grammar. I should have written an Aquila Solent.
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Rather than allowing the lacuna to persist, may I invite you to try this. I think it safe to say that the idea didn't really catch on!
(and yes, I'm aware that it's appeared here before but that was a long time ago).
(and yes, I'm aware that it's appeared here before but that was a long time ago).
She still is the SIPA-Gérard AG-01 Aile Flotante (F-WFSM) alias NC-853G by André Gérard and built by SIPA
Hopefully someone can direct me to reliable info on her history.
One version is that she originally was a NC-853S (80hp Minié 4DC-30 engine), then NC-854S (65hp Continental A65), then NC-858S (90hp Continental C90-12F) before becoming the AG-01. So what is the engine?
Hopefully someone can direct me to reliable info on her history.
One version is that she originally was a NC-853S (80hp Minié 4DC-30 engine), then NC-854S (65hp Continental A65), then NC-858S (90hp Continental C90-12F) before becoming the AG-01. So what is the engine?
pomme homme
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That's entirely correct and demonstrates that, Walter, you know more about the aeroplane than I do! Thus I'm sorry that I cannot assist with an identification of the engine it had as F-WFSM (well, not, perhaps, until the birthday present about which I'm not supposed to know is delivered!). We await your next challenge.
p.s. I keep writing île flottante - which is a meringue and custard dessert - rather than aile flottante and so have to correct myself!
p.s. I keep writing île flottante - which is a meringue and custard dessert - rather than aile flottante and so have to correct myself!
