The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[Dev One]

Need a clue methinks...polymorphic, variable geometry, variable camber questions have not shown this one....
Keith

 

[Moses03]

This type of design is tough to pin down because you see similar aircraft dating from the early teens to the late 1920's.

 

[Baragouin]

This type of design is tough to pin down because you see similar aircraft dating from the early teens to the late 1920's.

Let me put you out of your mysery she's from Austria and the wings had a venetian-blind structure....
Cheers
BG

 

[giruXX]

Ziegler Z I

 

[Baragouin]

Ziegler Z I

Hello Giru!
Ich lasse das gelten...although I have her as (Julius) Ziegler 46 - 1931 - Austria - engine: Gnome (80PH)....wings were fitted with a sort of venetian blind system.
Giru's turn of course!
Cheers
BG

 

[giruXX]

You may consult this as well:

 

[giruXX]

Sorry for the delay. Here comes the next

 

[Moses03]

Douglas Y1B-7 bomber.

 

[giruXX]

That's her Over to Moses03

(actually one out of five Y1O-35)

 

[Moses03]

Knew I was going to guess wrong on the exact designation!


Something much younger.

 

[lefty]

Gulfstream 1 ?

 

[Moses03]

Also known as the G-159 (prototype). You got it Mike.

 

[Baragouin]

You may consult this as well:

Thanks for the additional info!
Cheers
BG

 

[lefty]

Thanks Kevin - the round windows had me puzzled - reckoned it was an Avro 748, but couldn't find one with only 5 each side ! Looked too fat for a Gulfstream, but at the end of the day the windows did it. If only today's tubes had proper-sized windows, how much more pleasant flying would be.....

Here's a trimotor which had nice big windows, although not many !

 

[giruXX]

again from

Avis BGV-I (A-11) 1924

 

[lefty]

Indeed, gX, the Avis, although I have it as BG.VI rather than BGV-1. But then 1924 was a long time ago.....
Unusual machine, 230hp motor up front and a couple of 100hop jobs alongside for good measure.
over to you -

 

[giruXX]

Well, I think the designation BGV-I which I took from Keimel (2003) who shows the same photo plus a 3-view drawing of the machine makes more sense than BG.VI.

As this was the first and only tri-motor built in Austria there were perhaps no BG.I through V before a no. VI.

Unfortunately, Keimel doesn’t give any explanation for BGV-I. Personally, I would propose Berg Großflugzeug Verkehr, No. 1 or something alike. The machine was built by the Avis Werke in Brunn am Gebirge near Vienna (Wien) and designed by Ob.-Ing. Julius von Berg. A-11 is its registration.

Placing such big radiators so close to the propellers is good for cooling efficiency but bad for propulsion. Perhaps they needed the two smaller extra engines to compensate for the losses of the primary one?


Let's return to beaten paths! What about this “backseater”?

 

[Moses03]

Miller HM-1 racer.

 

[giruXX]

I have it as MAC-1 (NX2491) but it appears under the names Military Aircraft HM-1 or Miller HM-1, HM-2 as well.

Over to Moses03

 

[Moses03]

Thanks gX.

Next: I like the skull and crossbones on the tail myself.