The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[lefty]

Thought we'd start off the New Year with a nice easy one. Over to you, gX

 

[Baragouin]

Thanks gX. Not too many v-tail autogyros out there.


One from the grain archives. How about this ungainly trainer?

Happy New Year to all. Stay safe and healthy!

First of all a happy and healthy New Year to all of you boys and girls!
Secondly I wonder whether you could hand out a bit more infos on the Ricci R7: whereas I could find plenty of infos on their midget triplane Ricci R6 (and also on their large floater) nothing seems to be available on the net concerning the R7...
Thanks in advance for your help!
Cheers
BG

 

[giruXX]

Well, let’s try this

 

[cthornburg]

This is all I could find on Ricci R.7

The “RICCI 7” was tested by DE LORETO at CAPODICHINO (Naples). The following year the “RICCI 7 BIS” was derived with different airframe. Piloted by PIS- TONE, this second aircraft partecipated to the COPPA ITALIA at CENTOCELLE.

Chris

 

[cthornburg]

Naval Aircraft Factory NM-1

Chris

 

[giruXX]

Correct on the NAF XNM-1 Chris

 

[cthornburg]

Next up floater.

 

[Moses03]

Attached is where I lifted the R.7 side view from. For native Italians only...not sure if there are any nuggets there.

 

[Baragouin]

Attached is where I lifted the R.7 side view from. For native Italians only...not sure if there are any nuggets there.

Thanks very much Moses for your efforts as a result I dug up some interesting information concerning Aircraft manufacturers in Southern Italy and particularly concerning "Fratelli Ricci" ("Ricci Bros") who were foresighted entrepreneurs who went as far as planning a giant transatlantic floater....in typical neapolitan fashion their concerns changed name rather frequently therefore the "Triplano Ricci R6" (probably their best known creation) was manufactured at Industrie Aviatorie Meridionali in the early twenties and reproposed in a modernized version in 1932 but by this time the manufacturer was a "Società Bacini e Scali" (still in Naples and still belonging to Fratelli Ricci). Finally from the clipping you sent me it appears that the R-7 was a 1923 creation built at "Officine e Cantieri di Napoli" ....thanks again!
Cheers
BG

 

[giruXX]

Back to the actual floater. Did it set sail in the Mediterranean?

 

[cthornburg]

Yes I would say it sailed there.

Chris

 

[cthornburg]

Following a recent theme. Should have surfaced with all the research.

Chris

 

[giruXX]

Could it then be another creation of François DENHAUT?

e.g.: Le dimanche 29 septembre 1912, le quotidien « L’Abeille de la Creuse » écrit dans ses colonnes :
« C’est un monoplan de 12 mètres d’envergure, avec un léger plan inférieur, la base est consolidée par un canot et deux flotteurs, ce qui permet à l’appareil de se poser sur l’eau, le tout est supporté par deux roues de faible diamètre.
Il est mu par un moteur Anzani de 50 chevaux, qui actionne une hélice à quatre branches. Le fuselage a une longueur de 8 mètres, y compris les gouvernails. L’appareil est équilibré, très stable et tient bien l’atmosphère. ... »

 

[cthornburg]

Not French

Chris

 

[giruXX]

Aah, another Ricci design!

Did you mean this? Which number is it really? http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9159.msg294844.html#msg294844

It could be this "no-namer": ≪During 1918 the Ricci brothers also designed a large gull-wing seaplane with a pylon mounted engine: the aircraft was intended to leverage the ground effect flying at low altitude to deliver its payload (2 torpedoes, buried inside the fuselage)≫

 

[cthornburg]

I have it as the Ricci R.8. Didn't correlate it with that pix but it looks right. I figured with all the research going on with Ricci it would come out. What I've found on Ricci.

Ricci:


R0 1914


R1 aka R.I.B. 3eng biplane twin fuselage seaplane WWI


(R1 mod) 2nd proto 1919 Pix


R2 ????


R3 Project
R4 Project


R5 FB pix 1923


R6 Triplane 1918 MM167


R7 Pix
R7bis


R8 flying boat Pix


R9 2s Triplane 1921


FBA for Greece

Over to you.

 

[Moses03]

Darn it! Had the Ricci seaplane but did not make the connection to the rear facing photo.

 

[giruXX]

I hope this one was not posted here before.

 

[lefty]

Hmm, I was going through exactly the same routine as the rest of you, came up with the 'gull-wing seaplane', then just when I was trying to confirm it as Chris's mystery, there appeared this pic of the Ricci R.2 Gabbione - gull-wing indeed, but not the same machine !

 

[Moses03]

Here is the photo of the Ricci Idroplano I had.