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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

One assumes that the notice on the hangar wall would read 'Defense de Fumer', so presumably we are looking at a Francophone country here ?... There was a period in the early thirties when everybody was making parasol machines much like this !
 
DHC2Pilot :salute:
Have some brief details on this one (which in my "book" is listed as DS-1 Papillon)
From what I gathered it was originally built in Syria in 1934/1935 by employees of the Air France
station In Damascus and may have carried the (unofficial?) registration S-YRIE.
First flight is mentioned as 1 November 1935.
After WW2, the aircraft turned up in Lebanon and became the DS-1 Papillon and in 1947 the registration LR-AAP may have been applied. Reportedly the aircraft was damaged/lost the same year 1947.
Engine may have been a 40hp Salmson radial and wingspan/length were 10,00 and 6,50 resp.
The French hangar text no doubt has to do with the possible Air France connection and also Syria and Lebanon have (used to have?) French as second language.

The same photo appeared in Air Pictorial of March 1957. Most of the info came from an article by Dutch aviation historian Harm Hazewinkel.

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:icon29: on the DS-1 'Papillon'. Wish we knew what the D.S. stood for!!
Got the pic from the '57 Air Pictorial as mentioned. Not much information beyond the model provided. Thanks for the additional background. :) Over to you sir.
 
Quite a few of these homebuilt sport aircraft are flying around.

However, most (if not all) have a fixed gear.
 
Hi Kevin :salute:
The designer is Chris Heintz who introduced the Zenith while still in France and several dozens were built in that country. After he moved to Canada it usually was known as the Zenith (Zenair) CH-200. The one in the pic is a one-off with retractable gear and often also known as the Belin Zéphir (F-PJBH)

OH please
 
Correct! Two (or more) wee drams (Talisker?) for the gent! Its a wierd one that I'd not come across before!
Over to you sir!
Keith
 
Thanks, Keith - actually Talisker is not one of my favourites -not a fan of the 'peaty' stuff which the Americans like so much - it tastes like antiseptic to me ! I'll settle for a Highland Park if that's OK ?

Here's a nice night fighter, believe it or not -
 
Highland Park - yes, very, very nice, but I would class it as a peaty variety, although not so marked as Talisker. I note also that Highland Park is used in the Famous Grouse blend & presumably also in Black Grouse & Snow Grouse!
As for the Kite - lost for ideas, presumably a one off Continental design?
Keith
 
This one has a little bit of an unusual shape for it's time...

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I thought the Dare evolved more than just an engine swap from the Benz to the Liberty. The fuselage looks different and there are many small changes. It still was an unwieldly mess in the air! :isadizzy:

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