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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

I can see the Bristol connection up to a point - but I was going in the US direction - Aerofiles and Larkin were getting me nowhere - Vought was apparently the main inspiration, and there were touches of Stearman too !

But those hefty struts above the lower wing were the killer...........

Anyway, here's a neat tourer which looks vaguely familiar - or does it ??
 
lefty said:
I can see the Bristol connection up to a point - but I was going in the US direction - Aerofiles and Larkin were getting me nowhere - Vought was apparently the main inspiration, and there were touches of Stearman too !

But those hefty struts above the lower wing were the killer...........

Anyway, here's a neat tourer which looks vaguely familiar - or does it ??
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It reminds me of a Hopfner HS-10/32 (prototype A130)....[PC should be OK by now]Cheers
BG
 
Yes I think I have to agree, the Hopfner 10/32, although the Jane's of the day lists it as the 10/33, which had modified ailerons apparently. Unless some elderly Austrian gentlemen are watching this forum, I suspect we'll never really know...

Over to Tuscany - :very_drunk:
 
lefty said:
Yes I think I have to agree, the Hopfner 10/32, although the Jane's of the day lists it as the 10/33, which had modified ailerons apparently. Unless some elderly Austrian gentlemen are watching this forum, I suspect we'll never really know...

Over to Tuscany - :very_drunk:
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Thanks Lefty!
and here's my next offer:
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BG
 
Chris appears to have nailed the Romanian - I was getting nowhere. When checking, was confused by the fact that there was also a S.E.T. X, which was an entirely different aircraft !

We'll keep it rolling with this slim wee floater. As it is a unique variant of a family built in some numbers, I'll need the exact model designation,please !
 
Looks like a Fairchild 22, but which model number dunno, as not seen that photo before or since!
Keith

Edit: Would hazard a guess as the 22c -7c as Aerofiles notes one with a DH gipsy going to Canada, but no mention of floats & no photo.
K
 
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Well I'm going to award the :icon29:, Keith, although the waters under this floater are a tad muddy ! My photo is from Janes 1934, posing as a Fairchild Canada 22-B. The reg is CF-ATQ, which tallies with the Canadian historical register. However, an American reg, NC12669, is also attached to the same machine, which shows up in their list as a 22C-7D.

Janes states that this model was 'produced' in Canada, but I, as they say here, 'hae ma doots !'

If Rob were around doubtless he could enlighten us ?
 
Mike, Thank you - unexpected, very! The F22C-7D according to Aerofiles had the Wright Gypsy engine which rotated american style, not DH style which your photo shows. Anyway would be nice to know who is correct sometime!

Keeping to the floater theme here is my offering:


Keith
 

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Was just looking through the Putnam Parnall book the other day and there she is on page 148, the diminutive Peto.
 
I are here, well, back, um.. errr.. actually have had no time to indulge in the Museum of Oddities :adoration:
Was actually looking at Canuck Fairchilds yesterday but the larger versions... will dig and see what crawls in the underworld.

lefty said:
Well I'm going to award the :icon29:, Keith, although the waters under this floater are a tad muddy ! My photo is from Janes 1934, posing as a Fairchild Canada 22-B. The reg is CF-ATQ, which tallies with the Canadian historical register. However, an American reg, NC12669, is also attached to the same machine, which shows up in their list as a 22C-7D.

Janes states that this model was 'produced' in Canada, but I, as they say here, 'hae ma doots !'

If Rob were around doubtless he could enlighten us ?
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Fairchild 22 reprise

the waters under this floater are a tad muddy ! My photo is from Janes 1934, posing as a Fairchild Canada 22-B. The reg is CF-ATQ, which tallies with the Canadian historical register. However, an American reg, NC12669, is also attached to the same machine, which shows up in their list as a 22C-7D.

Janes states that this model was 'produced' in Canada, but I, as they say here, 'hae ma doots !'
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First, regarding the reg. NC12669, that came after the first Fairchild 24's so it may be a resale or -ATQ being re-imported (and re-powered?)

I can find no reference to 'production' in Canada, although that may have come from one (-ATQ) being dragged across the border and assembled (or finished) in Canada. I found a (rear-view) pic of -ATQ on wheels but none of any on canoes although floats are mentioned as an option in the $2675 price. As far as the models and engines the muddy waters are more like bayou soup. There was no 22B but likely a simplification of a 22 C7B so it would be a Menasco-powered one. However the cowling looks odd for a Menasco so I wonder if it was perhaps the Cirrus (C7A) or something arbitrarily applied to a one-off Canuck assemblage of parts.


  • C7, Rover 75 hp 4 cylinder inverted inline (13 built)
  • C7A, Cirrus Hi-Drive 95 hp 4 cylinder inverted inline (58)
  • C7B, Menasco C-4 Pirate 125 hp 4 cylinder inverted inline (8) -yet these seem to be most common now-
  • C7D, Wright Gipsy 90 hp 4 cylinder upright inline (22+1)
  • C7E, Warner Scarab 125 hp 7 cylinder radial (11)
  • C7F, Warner Super Scarab 145 hp 7 cylinder radial (9)
  • C7G, Warner Super Scarab 145 hp 7 cylinder radial (6)
While a few are reported as C7D's they may have been subsequently re-engined as the Wright was VERY different in appearance as the engine was an "upright" inline - see pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/2999256397/ and http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Fairchild/4620.htm

Here's a link to a C7D that was re-engined with a Menasco (to make it a C7B?) from down in the land of Moses: http://pioneerflightmuseum.org/aircraft/fairchild22/index.shtml

Lovely little airplane and one day I'll even install Put-Put's model and fly it. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming..

Edit: after posting the above I found this:
The C-7A was the first to improve the power of the F 22 and was fitted with a Cirrus Hi-Drive 4 cylinder inverted inline engine, built under licence from Cirrus Aero Engines at Croydon. It provided 20 hp more than its predecessor without altering the lines of the type, and began production during 1935. Several were exported offshore and the aircraft was further developed as a seaplane. Around 60 examples being manufactured fitted with Edo floats, a metal propeller, hand crank-inertia engine starter and navigation lights.


Fair-F22-C7A-2.jpg

The numbers look odd as not that many were built according to other records.
http://all-aero.com/index.php/contactus/45-planes-d-e-f/3410-fairchild-22
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