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The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

Hi Mr. Green :encouragement:
Did not recognize it on the first pic. I think this is the Aircraft K by the Raduka Design Bureau (which alledgely had ties with the MiG Design Bureau). Aircraft K was built to speed up development of what later became called Cruise Missiles and as you remarked carried a pilot. It externally resembled the KS-1 Kometa (NATO Kennel) cruise missile. Aircraft K could take of under own power or was air-launched by a Tu-4. Seems 3 were built (K-1, K2 and K-3) and engine was a RD-500 (RR Derwent development). First flight 1951.
The Australians did a similar thing with the manned Pika version of the Jindivik (target) drone.
 
wout said:
Hi Mr. Green :encouragement:

The Australians did a similar thing with the manned Pika version of the Jindivik (target) drone.
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Wasn't air launched though. 2 built 1 still exists. Primarily built to help the development of the autopilot, from these flights it was decided not to fit a rudder, which caused us problems in later development of the Jindivik when higher banked turns were wanted.
Keith
 
Thank you for the info on the Pila/Jindivik. Did not know that. :encouragement:
Sorry, but could not find better pic of this pusher. Tail group should give away the designer.
Bonus available for 3 of several features that make this one differ from other ones.
 

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Here's a better pic, Walter....
It wasn't 'roadable', it had a fibreglass cockpit, and a smaller engine ??
 

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Thank you Mike :encouragement:. Very nice picture. I guess from JAWA, but I stopped collecting those (both for financial reasons and the size of my storage shoe boxes).
Correct on non-roadable and fiberflas body. Other changes were the tri-gear (instead of the 4-wheel Aerocar), accommodation for 4 (2 in the Aerocar) and this variant was not called an Aerocar, but Aero-Plane (Aerocar Model II Aero-Plane). It may have been known as the Aerocar Model 1-A, before it became the Model II.

You are cordially invited to keep our grey matter in motion :icon29:
 
wout said:
You are cordially invited to keep our grey matter in motion
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I have enough difficulty trying to keep my own grey cells activated, Walter......

However, on the subject of flying cars, how about this one ?
 

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Indeed - :very_drunk: - and unlike some of those 'roadable' aircraft, this one actually worked - here's a lovely photo of Rene's machine bowling down the Champs-Elysees......
 

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This one was roadable on the ramp, taxiway and runway...


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Impressive BG! :icon29: Interesting that this one was snapped up by the military and then later turned over for civilian use.

I found mention of a O.S.A 200 with an uprated Alfa-Romeo. Wonder if it existed? Anyhoo, over to you.
 
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This is the Victa Airtourer 100. I believe the prototype was a timber machine - this one looks metal to me but I don't have the reg. Over to PH for a tube of Foster's <v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape style="WIDTH: 18.75pt; HEIGHT: 12pt" id=_x0000_i1025 type="#_x0000_t75" alt=""><v:imagedata src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\peterh\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.png" o:href="http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/images/smilies/very_drunk.png"></v:imagedata></v:shape>
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Just a bit of info to follow up from this post about the Victa/Airtourer/CT-4 variants ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AESL_Airtourer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_CT/4_Airtrainer


I have ratings on the T2 115 hp ; T3 130 hp ; T5 150 hp/constant speed and CT-4B 220 hp, plus also have flown the CT-4E while doing a formation flying course with the RNZAF many years ago.

Pete.
 
Well your supposed expert is struggling a bit here - the bracing and strut arrangement is that of the Savoia S.12bis, but the engine looks different. Still working on it !

(Yes, think it may be the Schneider Trophy 1920 entry)
 
lefty said:
Well your supposed expert is struggling a bit here - the bracing and strut arrangement is that of the Savoia S.12bis, but the engine looks different. Still working on it !

(Yes, think it may be the Schneider Trophy 1920 entry)
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You're very very close.....just by one number!
BG
 
OK, you think it's the 13 ?? My sources are conflicting, but this would appear to agree with my conclusion...(and if this is a Schneider job, as would be indicated by the pennant, well the S.13 had a four-bladed prop, and was converted to a single-bay machine) I'll stick with the 12bis !
 

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I only have one card up my sleeve. :untroubled: But it appears to show a somewhat larger spanned (total of 8 wing struts) S.13 that seems to match BG's photo, rather than that Putnam S.13 (Tipo?) you posted above Lefty? Also shows a 2-bladed prop.

lefty said:
I'll stick with the 12bis !
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Lock me in for the S.13 - besides, it seems to be what BG wants. :untroubled:
 

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Yes, G, I have perused a lot of photos, including that one - a standard Model 13. The problem is that blue-and-white pennant, which I understood to be applied to Italian Schneider competitors, and the 1919 Schneider Model 13 was a modified machine which looked entirely different.

However, I'm probably wrong, and doubtless BG will reveal all eventually ! (The Italians are masters in obfuscation - check out this website which supposedly shows the 1919 entry - two different aircraft - neither of which is like BG's machine !)

http://www.tusciaromana.info/5Turismo/t_mus_vdv_primati02.htm
 
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