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'The Pontiac That Never Was'

I really wish they didn't kill the Pontiac division. Perhaps it will be back one day. I am sure that model of the Firebird would have sold fairly well. Time will tell what final direction the company will take. I'm not convinced that the company is locked on a final course yet.

Don
 
After they killed off Pontiac, the only thing GM makes now that interests me is GMC pickups. But my next truck stands a good chance of being a Ford.

I do like that Trans Am concept though. Had a '67 Ram Air GTO back in the day, but always wanted an early 70s T/A.
 
The 'Pontiac that never was' that I would have loved to see on the road was the Banshee- anyone ever seen a picture of that?
 
Awww, just because it was made before you were born isn't any reason to hate it. :icon_lol:

You probably wouldn't like the Dodge M4S Turbo concept car they used in The Wraith either...

Brian
 
To me, the only thing about GM worth saving were the car lines they killed...Pontiac and Saturn. Buick, Cadillac, Chevy.....not a single car in the line up that I would buy. Either too blah, too ho hum, to expensive or just too STOOPID (like, who really needs a 500 plus horse power luxury vehicle? And who can really afford one?). GM (and Dodge) was saved from going under to preserve American jobs...but GM went right on doing the asinine things it was doing that got it into financial problems in the first place...building cars and trucks that American buyers either don't want or can't afford. I have been a GM man ever since the day my Dad put down his foot and said that he was a Ford man, but there is nothing coming out of the GM doors these days that would catch my money.

And as far as the Firebird Prototype....please let the 'Bird rest in peace...do not do to it what was done to the Camero, Charger and Challenger. Let the legendary cars stay legends...don't "resurrect" them into some sad parody of the great cars they were in their rightful times. We all know what they did with the "GTO"! Do I need to say more?

OBIO
 
Whoops! I forgot about THAT Banshee (I understand your reaction, Kiwikat)...
I meant this one from 1964...


That's actually kind of cool.

These new "muscle cars" that they have been reviving look awful for the most part. The only one I've liked at all is the Dodge Challenger. I still prefer the original version of that too.

Leave the old 60's and 70's cars alone. Quit ruining American classics! :unitedstates:


Someday I'll buy a 1970 Roadrunner...
 
After they killed off Pontiac, the only thing GM makes now that interests me is GMC pickups. But my next truck stands a good chance of being a Ford.

I do like that Trans Am concept though. Had a '67 Ram Air GTO back in the day, but always wanted an early 70s T/A.

GM had just as well kill Pontiac, as nothing new came out of the US studios for over a decade. Every Pontiac you got for the last 10 years was an Australian Holden or an German Opel. Only the body was a US design.

Caz
 
GM had just as well kill Pontiac, as nothing new came out of the US studios for over a decade. Every Pontiac you got for the last 10 years was an Australian Holden or an German Opel. Only the body was a US design.
Caz

Actually, the 'Firebird' was an all Australian GMH design, the Monaro, but it was deemed too 'Plain' after the first model was released in the US, it then received a face lift which made a very clean and popular car (In Australia) a leading contender for the 'Fugly Badge'.
IIRC the 7 litre US market engine didn't flatter the handling as well.
Sometimes the original is the best ....:173go1:

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Actually, the 'Firebird' was an all Australian GMH design, the Monaro, but it was deemed too 'Plain' after the first model was released in the US, it then received a face lift which made a very clean and popular car (In Australia) a leading contender for the 'Fugly Badge'.
IIRC the 7 litre US market engine didn't flatter the handling as well.
Sometimes the original is the best ....:173go1:

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Day-um Wombat, that thing is Chrysler ugly! :>)

Caz

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I've owned three cars and all of them have been Pontiacs. Each has lasted a good, long time. (The G6 has yet to be seen though....) The G6 is a beautiful car, but I've had more problems with it than the other two put together. It was poorly built.

With the poor and irresponsible financial performance of GM, I cannot in good conscience purchase another GM automobile. I will buy American, which pretty much means Ford. My wife got an Escape a few years back and hasn't had a lick of trouble with it, knock on wood.

Anyhow, I've read that Pontiacs are still being made in Mexico and that GM only shelved the Pontiac nameplate. The idea is to eventually bring it back when the economy gets better. I don't recall the source, so that may be a total crock.
 
I owned a '79 TA with a 403 Olds engine under the hood. Apparently, this was something of a limited release, since it also had 15x8" wide deep honeycomb wheels instead of the stock 15x7" units, plus four-wheel disk brakes. She'd turn a 90° city block corner at 30MPH with very little fuss. It also had a tiny little rear gear, doing 62 MPH at only 2000 RPM without overdrive or converter lock. It took so little throttle to run at that speed, that the cruise control was useless under 85 MPH!
 
I've owned three cars, and they were all Chevys with a four cylinder engine: a 1993 Cavalier, a 2000 Cavalier, and my current car, a 2009 Malibu LT. Knock their quality all you wish, but GM's four cylinders have been practically bulletproof in my experience. There's only been one time when any of those three engines failed to start, and even that was because I had neglected to put a new battery in my '93 Cavalier. The Malibu is my first brand-new car, and I just paid it off last month. I look forward to driving the Malibu for many happy years to come! :wiggle:
 
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