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The Shuttleworth Collection Flying Day 06/16

Geomitrak said:
Its something to so with altering the stall / spin characteristics when the Tiger Moth carried dummy bombs under the wings in military service as a trainer. Can't give you the aerodynamic details, but thats the gist of it.
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From the PPRuNe forum:

"Having read the relevant chapters of the Tiger Moth Story, apparently the Tiger passed its trials at Martlesham easily and its spinning characteristics were considered "well mannered". During the war, however, a number of aircraft were exhibiting a reluctance to recover form spins and some of the worst offenders were thoroughly tested at Boscombe Down (?). The worst once took 13 turns to recover! Yikes!

Apparently it was the only one with bomb racks fitted. It turned out that the reason was an increase in weight - three coats of paint as the training colours/camoflague schemes were amended, the addition of mass balance weights in the ailerons, plus bomb racks on certain aircraft... The <nobr>extra weight</nobr> in the wings acted like a fly-wheel... An impressed Tiger that had avoided the <nobr>weight gain</nobr> was also tested and confirmed the findings. The cure was to remove the aileron mass <nobr>balances</nobr> and to fit the anti-spin strakes mentioned in my post above.

Looking at the various pics in the book, post war some civillianised Tigers had the strakes removed (or hadn't been fitted with them) others didn't. Example is the famous Sea Tiger, G-AIVW, which certainly still sported them in the early sixties. I sohuld imagine that many of the aircraft that passed through Rollasons at Croydon were recovered in the course of their civillianisation, thus removing the problem."

N.
 
Wonderful photos. Old Warden is my favorite flying venue..... alas... too far away for me most of the time. Oh, it occurred to me that we are building quite a collection of their aircraft for FSX... the Lizzie, Gladiator, Storch and Cub, and the Anson joining the list soon. :wiggle:
 
Simply great stuff. The P-40 Lulu Belle reminded me it won't be long for Mike upcoming P-40N. Thanks for sharing.
 
Thanks for the comments and praise guys, always appreciated.

Also, some great info posted here too......which is why I choose this place as one of only a few I'll post all of these. Always interesting stuff in the replies. It's good to hear about all the other similar aircraft still flying around the globe too. Seeing these posts, as well as the youngsters in white overalls on the flightline, give me hope that these gorgeous aircraft will be around for quite a while yet :)

It was after the Avro Nineteen had boomed past, low and fast, that I turned to my friend and said "if that doesn't move you, even slightly, you can't be alive!"

I mean, seriously, just listen to this thing bellow!

 
Oh wow, that''s worth planning a vacation for just to see all these planes. Thanks for sharing this. Some of my favourite planes are there!
 
ThinkingManNeil said:
From the PPRuNe forum:

"Having read the relevant chapters of the Tiger Moth Story, apparently the Tiger passed its trials at Martlesham easily and its spinning characteristics were considered "well mannered". During the war, however, a number of aircraft were exhibiting a reluctance to recover form spins and some of the worst offenders were thoroughly tested at Boscombe Down (?). The worst once took 13 turns to recover! Yikes!

Apparently it was the only one with bomb racks fitted. It turned out that the reason was an increase in weight - three coats of paint as the training colours/camoflague schemes were amended, the addition of mass balance weights in the ailerons, plus bomb racks on certain aircraft... The <nobr>extra weight</nobr> in the wings acted like a fly-wheel... An impressed Tiger that had avoided the <nobr>weight gain</nobr> was also tested and confirmed the findings. The cure was to remove the aileron mass <nobr>balances</nobr> and to fit the anti-spin strakes mentioned in my post above.

Looking at the various pics in the book, post war some civillianised Tigers had the strakes removed (or hadn't been fitted with them) others didn't. Example is the famous Sea Tiger, G-AIVW, which certainly still sported them in the early sixties. I sohuld imagine that many of the aircraft that passed through Rollasons at Croydon were recovered in the course of their civillianisation, thus removing the problem."

N.
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Thanks for filling in the details, Neil. I knew it was something like that. :ernae:
 
I got a few more sorted out in post-processing, I'll share them too :)

1935 Gloster Gladiator

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Lulu Belle landing and taxiing

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A rather distorted photostitch of one of the hangers

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Wonderful photo's Private Custard and many thanks for sharing them.:salute::salute::salute:


Brought back memories of my first ever flight from Yeadon Flying Club ( Leeds Bradford Airport as it is now known).

It was in a Miles Gemini and it was a Birthday Treat, I was seven years old, been hooked ever since.
 
I loved the Gemini....and not just because it's my star sign!

To be honest, there were a lot of aircraft there that I didn't really know about. It's only my second season getting back into airshows, and I seem to have gotten into a prop/vintage thing, rather than the jets when I was in my teens.

Although that might change a little.....Waddington may have a Viggen this year :jump:
 
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