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Thought about getting a VR headset, but.....

I've had experiences with VR headsets before, which were stunning, to say the least, but it was with shooters and demos only, and mostly not for a PC. I wonder about the click functions in the cockpit the flight sim. How well does that work? Are there any limits as far as angle and distance from a click spot goes?

The Odyssey seems like a good catch, but I also reckon that I live in the wrong country as far as most of my interests are concerned. The Odyssey seems hard to get here, and the offers I saw were horribly expensive and any guarantee options are in question.


Cheers,
Mark
 
Same problem here Mark, as the Odyssey is not sold officially in Europe...
That's why my brother went for a Lenovo instead...

Concerning the clicking, I would say it's pretty similar to what you would experience with a trackIR.
When I had the headset on, I couldn't see my controls, but I knew the mouse was standing just next to the throttle. Then it was easy enough to find it with my hand. From there, the mouse cursor would appear in the cockpit just like on a regular screen, and would react to any clickable item, with tooltip etc...

Granted, it is a bit more difficult to aim properly, as the view moves with your head... you must ensure you keep your head stable for a second so that you can click what you want. Same with a TrackIR I suppose. In tiny cockpits this is quite easy honnestly. When flying the Mustang, everything was easy to spot, read and click/scroll. When using a bigger aircraft though, it was more difficult, because buttons and instruments were further away and smaller. I had to lean my head in their direction to get them more readable and more clickable, but that was the only constraint.

Sometimes I needed several tries to get into the correct position for clicking. But in the end, that was a similar experience as in a car in real life, where I would look for something in the car, but only for half a second before bringing my head/eyes back to the road before trying again. It was the same going back and forth in a cockpit with a VR headset. Not the best usability, but not bad enough to alter the general pleasure.
 
LouP said:
Hey chief, I wear wire frame glasses with my Odysee all the time. Just be careful the first time trying the glasses in there as the lens in all the hmds are pretty soft and easily marked up. My regular glasses are a tight fit. Try it without your specs first as some folks who wear glasses don't need them in the vr headsets. Also be patient and give yourself time to get everything set up right. Lastly, I strongly suggest you get Flyinside, the version for the rift works just fine with the Samsung.

LouP
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I ordered wire frame glasses from Zenni. They are not expensive, but I have another problem. I wear bi-focals. So should I have just ordered the bi-focal part of the prescription, for close-up reading, i.e. computer vision? I have glasses just for that, which I am currently wearing. I guess it will be a trial and error thing.

Also, I ordered KlearKare lens protector film. I read from other forums that the film is completely transparent, and will protect the Odyssey lenses from being scratched. One other item I am probably going to get is a foam cover from VRCover. That is supposed to help as well. NC

https://vrcover.com/product/samsung-odyssey-foam-replacement/
 
Dangerous Beans said:
No Chief you a want prescription for normal use not reading ,you've ordered the right thing.
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This is correct. I read the focal point for your prescription with VR should be four feet. The glasses I use were made for use when using the PC monitors and I require bifocals in everyday life.

LouP
 
Well, a update of sorts.

I am going to see a optometrist next Monday morning to get a prescription for contact lenses, hopefully. If successful, that is the route I will go for using the VR Odyssey headset. Already ordered and received the velour replacement pad for it, along with the KleanKare lens protectors. All I need now are the contacts (hopefully my eyes will be a candidate for them).

I am keeping in mind what LouP mentioned about the "focal" point being 4 feet? I had messaged you, Lou, asking where you got that information? Anyway, wish me luck. I still have not received the new desktop system, and probably won't for at least another week. My current system, although not VR capable, is running strong. I have TrackIR, so it isn't like I am without enough "toys"!! NC:biggrin-new:

Just found some interesting calibration information for the Odyssey, which does NOT have a physical focal adjustment.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-calibrate-display-windows-mixed-reality
 
I just tried using my neighbor's pc to try out the Samsung Odyssey VR. Holy crap, Batman! Awesome!!!! New pc arrives maybe next week.....:encouragement: NC
 
Well, I'm in the opposite situation: new PC is there, but I haven't ordered the VR headset yet :biggrin-new:
So you tried the headset without any contact lenses ? How was the view ?
 
Daube said:
Well, I'm in the opposite situation: new PC is there, but I haven't ordered the VR headset yet :biggrin-new:
So you tried the headset without any contact lenses ? How was the view ?
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In my situation, the view, although quite nice, was somewhat blurry. My glasses frames are just too close to the VR lenses. I am concerned my glasses will scratch those lenses. So Monday, when I see the eye doc, I will tell her why I am getting contacts. Hopefully she'll know what to sugggest. NC
 
Ah ok, I understand now.
And just our of curiosity, have you tried the headset without your glasses ?
 
Daube said:
Ah ok, I understand now.
And just our of curiosity, have you tried the headset without your glasses ?
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Yes. It is a little blurry. Text is not very clear; had to strain my eyes to read. Even though I only had the headset on for a few minutes, I ended up with a headache last night. My new pc should be here in a week. NC.
 
Update:

Received my new Pc this past Thursday. Spent the last two days installing sims and add-ons. Finally, last evening, I figured out how to get my Samsung Odyssey to work with Flyinside and P3D.

Holy crap, Batman! :applause: I have never EVER experienced anything like this, except being in a real life jet!

Well worth the cost. And the pc I bought was through Ibuypower. Outstanding customer service. Originally, I had called Cyberpower PC, but the customer sales service rep was a real jerk. His attitude indicated he didn't want to help me at all, so I do NOT recommend them. But Ibuypower? Yes!

Am a happy Navy Chief!:biggrin-new:
 
I saw something the other day about a new inexpensive Oculas Go headset for something like $250, if I remember correctly. These things are getting so inexpensive, it is hard to NOT try one. :biggrin-new:
 
Be careful, I believe the Occulus go is not made for 3D games, but more like streaming videos or something like that... I could be mistaken...

Navy Chef, congrats on your new hardware.
Approaching a carrier with a Phantom, a Tomcat, or an old warbird like the Corsair, in a VR headset, must be quite something !
I could only make a quick test with the default FSX Acceleration Mustang, and the view from the cockpit was unbelievable.
I mean, I always flew from the virtual cockpit from the FS9 days, that's more than 15 years now. But with a VR headset ? It's like I never had a virtual cockpit in my planes ever before...
 
jmig said:
I saw something the other day about a new inexpensive Oculas Go headset for something like $250, if I remember correctly. These things are getting so inexpensive, it is hard to NOT try one. :biggrin-new:
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I believe the Oculus Go is basically the same as a Samsung Gear except dont need to put your phone in it.
Its just for mobile apps and has no head tracking.
 
Yeah, Oculus Go isn't for PC/flight sims.

But you can get the Windows Mixed Reality headsets, which are about 95% HTC Vive compatible and work with all the sims that support VR for about $250 nowadays.
 
Navy Chief said:
Update:

Received my new Pc this past Thursday. Spent the last two days installing sims and add-ons. Finally, last evening, I figured out how to get my Samsung Odyssey to work with Flyinside and P3D.

Holy crap, Batman! :applause: I have never EVER experienced anything like this, except being in a real life jet!

Well worth the cost. And the pc I bought was through Ibuypower. Outstanding customer service. Originally, I had called Cyberpower PC, but the customer sales service rep was a real jerk. His attitude indicated he didn't want to help me at all, so I do NOT recommend them. But Ibuypower? Yes!

Am a happy Navy Chief!:biggrin-new:
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Glad it's working out. It's hard to go back to pancake flying after experiencing vr.

LouP
 
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