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Time to Evaluate SOH Viability Is Now

Milton Shupe

Milton Shupe

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In 10 days, Ickie must pay for the flight server, and in 30 days pay for this server. We are at 41% of our goal now.

Because of where we stand now, we must evaluate alternatives to providing SOH services.

As you know, only your donations keep SOH going. As members, we must step up or be willing to consider other sources for our community involvement. Time is getting short and Ickie must consider alternatives now.

Do we wish to support this site and keep it alive and well? Only we as members can answer that question.

Time is getting very short and decisions need to be made pronto.

We need to meet a substantive part of our goal shortly to keep SOH active in its current state.

Decision time.

We greatly appreciate your support. If you can comfortably do that, now is the time to step up.

Thank you for whatever you can do.
 
In the admin lounge we were talking about the good old days when SOH had low bandwidth allotments.

Roger and Ickie were talking about how at the end of the month the downloads would have to be turned off to avoid hitting the bandwidth limit.

Those days maybe coming back soon if we can not raise enough money.

We know we have enough members to support the site but the number of unique donators has been on the decline every year while the number of people who download has continued to go up.

If you find SOH a value to your hobby please donate.
 
I have been a fan of the outhouse since joining and have made every attempt to support this site and this hobby...and Developers
a couple things that need to be remembered by the administration
Families
Christmas was less then 20 days ago
Times are still hard for alot
I have tighten my belt on all purchases even for Christmas

just maybe the support drive should be started on a different time frame

This is only a suggestion
as I can tell you, Donating at this time of year can be alitte difficult for some of us however
I have made a Contribution

Thank you Outhouse, Painter, Freeware Developers, Payware Developers for the 2013, some great products :applause::applause::applause:

Here is to a Great 2014 for everyone :ernaehrung004:
 
Here's a no-kidding sugestion...

...make the drop down have contribution options above $100-- seriously.

$150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500 **might** help...

Just a thought-- it's called "suggestive selling"...

Kent
 
I have to add my opinion here.

As an owner of a very successful website, and online flight server, I think the amount SOH is paying seems very expensive. My own hosting, is UNLIMITED, in both data size and traffic, and over the last 12 months, has achieved a 99.9% uptime. It costs around 1% to run compared to the amount being raised here.

Do not get me wrong, it is fully the right of SOH to host and run where ever they choose, but $14000 seems a tad expensive. fell free to ban me if I am speaking out of term, but surely, for the good of SOH and the continued existance, would it not be better to look for cheaper hosting, with the 6000 raised so far?

The flight server is FSHOST run, which is free, and only needs a 24/7 PC to run. I assume SOH is using a dedicated server, but even I can, and do host a 24/7 flight server on my home PC for free, so can this not be an option, and move the hosting away from a dedicated server, to normal unlimited hosting?
 
OK. First I have donated and will give some more in the next 30 days. I am woefully under employed right now, but SOH is the first thing I look at on my computer, even before my email. That being said, is it possible to post what the money raised is specifically going towards? An actual accounting of what the funds are to be spent on? As UKMIL mentioned, maybe we need to look at alternatives to what we are currently doing. Maybe, as members, we need to be more involved. Me included! I am sure there is a way to keep SOH alive without monetizing the site. I know we have some very intelligent people here to come up with ideas. Soooo....
 
Well, for those of you that haven't been able to "donate very much", please don't kick yourselves-- every bit helps.

Just saying...

Kent
 
ColoKent said:
...make the drop down have contribution options above $100-- seriously.

$150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500 **might** help...

Just a thought-- it's called "suggestive selling"...

Kent
Click to expand...

Thanks Ickie, for adding the additional contribution denominations over $100....LET'S GET 'ER DONE, PEOPLE!!!!

Kent
 
I clicked the "SOH Donate Please" symbol next to my user name and was forwarded to the donation page.
One of the "Accepted Payment types" is Visa.
When I got to the page to actually make my payment, it says it only takes PayPal.
I do not have a PayPal account, is there any way you can accept Visa?
I'm sure I am not the only one who for one reason or another do not want a PayPal account.
 
Rudyjo said:
I clicked the "SOH Donate Please" symbol next to my user name and was forwarded to the donation page.
One of the "Accepted Payment types" is Visa.
When I got to the page to actually make my payment, it says it only takes PayPal.
I do not have a PayPal account, is there any way you can accept Visa?
I'm sure I am not the only one who for one reason or another do not want a PayPal account.
Click to expand...

Just follow the page and pay as a guest, then refuse the invite to sign up for Paypal
 
Would have to agree with UKMIL, might be worth shopping around even if to go back to your current provider?

Looking through AWS reserved instances would appear to possibly be a saving.

You currently don't do advertising but in this niche field I actually like advertising say on Avsim as it's taken me to new products I might not have heard about or highlighted sales I have taken advantage of.
 
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