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bazzar said:
No, not impossible, just, shall we say, not cheap. But then, having heard the whole suite and worked with this audio engineer, I am now totally convinced you get what you pay for.:engel016:
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Hi,

this Plane look´s ver good to me,i have it for P3D
i am very angry about this Simmarket that they force to use this stupid app to get wat you have pay,i like to save my downloads.

so maybee no AH DC3 for me,it is the only Store were i can buy this Plane?

i think i stop to buy at Simmarket as long they force to use this App.......

i am from Germany,so please give it to a Store were i can buy it:wavey:


Thank´s,
Ralf
 
@banjoman1960,

The DC-3 isn't available yet, but when it is, you can buy directly from Aeroplane Heaven's website
at https://www.aeroplaneheaven.com/ ... That's the best way to buy to support the developer anyway, since buying direct from a publisher's website lets them keep almost all the money (less transaction fees), vs. having to give about 30% to a store site like SimMarket.

You can do tihis with many publishers. A few only sell through Marketplace or SimMarket, but many plane publishers offer the aircraft from their own websites. So in those cases, no need to go through SimMarket.
 
DennyA said:
@banjoman1960, The DC-3 isn't available yet, but when it is, you can buy directly from Aeroplane Heaven's website
at https://www.aeroplaneheaven.com/ ... That's the best way to buy to support the developer anyway, since buying direct from a publisher's website lets them keep almost all the money (less transaction fees), vs. having to give about 30% to a store site like SimMarket.
You can do tihis with many publishers. A few only sell through Marketplace or SimMarket, but many plane publishers offer the aircraft from their own websites. So in those cases, no need to go through SimMarket.
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Yessir but you know Germany is in Europe, right ? :)

I don't know exactly why but AH asks European customers to buy their products from other vendors. Next to Simmarket that would be the ORBX-, Flightsim- , PC Aviator- , or Just Flight Store.

So, Ralf, dunno if you have any experience with any of those but i never had any problems buying f.i. from Just Flight myself. Have to say i also bought a ton of FS add-ons from Simmarket without so much as a hiccup. However not lately so i don't know anything yet about having to download and install an app. I believe i read something about that of ORBX as well ?....
 
You can buy our products from Just Flight, PC Aviator, Flightsim.com, SimMarket and ORBX.:engel016:
 
Javis said:
Yessir but you know Germany is in Europe, right ? :)

I don't know exactly why but AH asks European customers to buy their products from other vendors. Next to Simmarket that would be the ORBX-, Flightsim- , PC Aviator- , or Just Flight Store.

So, Ralf, dunno if you have any experience with any of those but i never had any problems buying f.i. from Just Flight myself. Have to say i also bought a ton of FS add-ons from Simmarket without so much as a hiccup. However not lately so i don't know anything yet about having to download and install an app. I believe i read something about that of ORBX as well ?....
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Hi Jan.
like to buy direkt from AH.
this new App at Simmarket is stupid,if you can it is ok,but not if you must.
you can not save the installer now?!? so wat happen if a store close like Flightsimstore?
i think Just Flight then......Orbx you need Central i think,i do not want to install Apps.

but i need a Dc 3 or C47,i miss our MJ so much,was the best Time in Siming.....

Cheers Ralf
 
We don't have the resources or time available to deal with the taxation in different countries. By law, if we were to sell ourselves in Europe for example, we are duty (sic) bound to collect the VAT or other taxes and then report and submit to the different taxation bodies of those countries. We could use an agent but that costs a fair bit. There's something like eleven different VAT levels alone to deal with. We'd just end up spending our time being tax collectors for other countries and building less as a result. This is why we leave that side of things to our vendors and pay commissions - it's less expensive and certainly less time-consuming.:engel016:
 
Apologies, I didn't realize AH didn't sell directly to Europe, but I understand the tax nightmare reasons why. It's still a good rule of thumb to check with other publishers, though.

As for the SimMarket app, I went from annoyed to overjoyed once I saw they'd finally added the ability to list add-ons that had been updated.
 
DennyA said:
Apologies, I didn't realize AH didn't sell directly to Europe, but I understand the tax nightmare reasons why. It's still a good rule of thumb to check with other publishers, though.

As for the SimMarket app, I went from annoyed to overjoyed once I saw they'd finally added the ability to list add-ons that had been updated.
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if you can save the installer it is ok,and as a option you can use it is ok,but to force it not.........
 
banjoman1960 said:
if you can save the installer it is ok,and as a option you can use it is ok,but to force it not.........
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You can save the installer with the SimMarket app. I used it to update Dino's F35 & just downloaded the zip same as from the website.
 
Not to derail this too far (though some of y'all will buy the DC-3 from SimMarket, so it's sorta on topic), but developers have the option to make planes installable directly from the new SimMarket app and those don't seem to have a straight download option. I noticed my Redwing L1049 only had an Install option, no Download option.

However, given how add-ons work with MSFS, with everything nicely encapsulated in one Community folder, it doesn't take much computer savvy to right click the newly installed file in your Community folder and select "Send to Compressed (zipped) folder" or 7Zip, and presto, you have a compressed backup wherever you want to put it. No more steps than unzipping a download the old way.
 
DennyA said:
@banjoman1960,

The DC-3 isn't available yet, but when it is, you can buy directly from Aeroplane Heaven's website
at https://www.aeroplaneheaven.com/ ... That's the best way to buy to support the developer anyway, since buying direct from a publisher's website lets them keep almost all the money (less transaction fees), vs. having to give about 30% to a store site like SimMarket.

You can do tihis with many publishers. A few only sell through Marketplace or SimMarket, but many plane publishers offer the aircraft from their own websites. So in those cases, no need to go through SimMarket.
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Impossible in EU countries. We have to pay 23% VAT here in Portugal. May vary in other countries....
 
DennyA said:
Not to derail this too far (though some of y'all will buy the DC-3 from SimMarket, so it's sorta on topic), but developers have the option to make planes installable directly from the new SimMarket app and those don't seem to have a straight download option. I noticed my Redwing L1049 only had an Install option, no Download option.

However, given how add-ons work with MSFS, with everything nicely encapsulated in one Community folder, it doesn't take much computer savvy to right click the newly installed file in your Community folder and select "Send to Compressed (zipped) folder" or 7Zip, and presto, you have a compressed backup wherever you want to put it. No more steps than unzipping a download the old way.
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We actually prefer people to download the zip file. Another store makes installers as well and we have been fielding help requests for the installer not working on win 11 or missing .net framework. It also makes installation issues something we cant help with ( obviously as we didnt make the installers ) so now we have to ask how they installed the product with the explanation that if they used an installer ( third party or otherwise ) we need them to go back and use the zip as designed.

So basically if you want support on the product we need to make sure that you are installing using the zip method as we then can be 100 % sure that you have the exact files that we want you to have.
 
pilto von pilto said:
We actually prefer people to download the zip file.
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When I was exchanging emails with Simmarket support about the new app (because some of the features, like the update, weren't super-discoverable), they mentioned that devs can choose whether to make the products installable or not. So y'all can still mandate that people download the Zip, sounds like.
 
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