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[jojohnson9]

I put my old T-37 "Tweet" into FSX. I remember that it was not the easiest plane to start the engines. I have followed the engine start procedures in the manual to the letter. I cannot get engines started. The plane looks good and the gauges seem to work in FSX. Can anyone help with this one?

 

[falcon409]

I finally gave up on it after a week of trying various things that others suggested. I believe someone figured it out but the workaround also causes some of the gauges to become inop.

 

[Warrant]

I finally gave up on it after a week of trying various things that others suggested. I believe someone figured it out but the workaround also causes some of the gauges to become inop.

Got the bird fully working in FSX (and posted about that about a year ago or so) but i'm suffering a system crash on my FS PC right now. Will get back on that later.

 

[jojohnson9]

Got the bird fully working in FSX (and posted about that about a year ago or so) but i'm suffering a system crash on my FS PC right now. Will get back on that later.

Would really appreciate it.

 

[jojohnson9]

I finally gave up on it after a week of trying various things that others suggested. I believe someone figured it out but the workaround also causes some of the gauges to become inop.

I found your post from last February (?) and it looks hopeless. It does look like it may be a panel problem. I think I'll fool around with it...see if it's a gauge causing no starts. Maybe I'll get lucky.

 

[Warrant]

As mentioned: Stuff works normal for me.
First four screenies to prove just that:

1: cold and dark
2: Stuff switched on
3: Engines starting (crtl E, but procedures according checklist work as well)
4: Engines running and start taxi



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[Warrant]

This is what my panel file looks like:

View attachment 39586

And this is what the panel.cfg looks like (remember, i have T-37v20 installed):

// FS2004 panel configuration file
// version 1.01 update 1
[Window Titles]
Window00=T-37B
Window01=GPS_Panel
Window02=Aux Radio Stack
Window03=Engine Control Panel
Window04=Credits
Window05=Autopilot
Window06=Small Nav Panel
Window07=TOLD
Window08=TrngPanel
Window09=simicons

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,TrngPanel,100,51,140,150,90,80,GPS_Panel,83
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=6.0, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_REAR_LEFT_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.7
VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_ZOOM=0.7

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=hMainPanelv2.8.bmp
file_1024=hMainPanelv2.8.bmp
size_mm=610
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=7
visible=1
ident=0
render_3d_window=0
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000
gauge00=T37b_c9!Aircraft Master, 120,2,10,10
gauge01=T37bx9!T37 Calcs, 140,2,10,10
gauge02=T37bx9!Compass, 562,47,46,53
gauge03=T37bx9!Airspeed, 121,280,87,91
gauge04=T37bx9!Altimeter, 118,369,88,90
gauge05=T37bx9!Boost Pump Light, 234,258,16,16
gauge06=T37bx9!Canopy Unlock Light, 367,258,16,16
gauge07=T37bx9!Clock, 392,278,47,46
gauge08=T37bx9!Engine Ice Light, 410,258,16,16
gauge09=T37bx9!Flaps, 78,344,41,41
gauge10=T37bx9!Fuel Gauge Switch Panel, 539,398,75,53
gauge11=T37bx9!Fuel Qty Gauge, 542,287,70,95
gauge12=T37bx9!Fuel Shutoff, 466,214,135,44
gauge13=T37bx9!G Meter, 583,260,27,29
gauge14=T37bx9!Gear Indicator, 74, 317 ,50,28
gauge15=T37bx9!Hydraulic Pressure, 437,215,28,42
gauge16=T37bx9!Inclinometer, 74,412,47,45
gauge17=T37bx9!J2 Compass, 374,366,86,91
gauge18=T37bx9!Left EGT, 457,303,47,43
gauge19=T37bx9!Left Fuel Flow, 457,343,41,44
gauge20=T37bx9!Left Oil Press, 457,386,42,45
gauge21=T37bx9!Left RPM, 455,261,48,44
gauge22=T37bx9!Right EGT, 499,304,45,41
gauge23=T37bx9!Right Fuel Flow, 498,344,41,44
gauge24=T37bx9!Right Oil Press, 498,386,42,45
gauge25=T37bx9!Right RPM, 498,261,49,44
gauge26=T37bx9!RMI, 207,276,83,89
gauge27=T37bx9!TO Trim Light, 273,258,16,16
gauge28=T37bx9!Trim, 0,334,16,51
gauge29=T37bx9!Vertical Speed, 290,363,87,95
gauge30=T37bx9!Tacan, 376,325,78,37
gauge31=T37bx9!Attitude, 286,275,100,101
gauge32=T37b_c9!Gear warning, 94,289,23,24
gauge33=T37bx9!Gear Handle, 28,323,46,135
gauge34=T37bx9!LeftHornSilence, 51,337,14,16
gauge35=T37bx9!Speed brake, 105,279,13,10
gauge36=T37bx9!OBI, 199,361,98,96
gauge37=T37bx9!Fuel Grav Lamp, 594,316,14,14
gauge38=T37bx9!Fuel Low Lamp, 544,316,14,14
gauge39=T37bx9!LL Switch, 82,384,27,26
gauge40=T37bx9!Right Load Meter, 499,431,38,34
gauge41=T37bx9!SimRate, 437,297,14,6
gauge42=T37bx9!Left Load Meter, 458,432,38,34
gauge43=T37bx9!Compass Slaving, 302,254,50,18
gauge44=T37bx9!Control Surfaces, 0,426,25,33
gauge45=t37b_c9!Engine Start, 290,363,10,10
gauge46=T37bx9!Sound Control, 1,1,10,10

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
size_mm=456,378
window_size=0.5
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
file=radio_stack.bmp
size_mm=300,600
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=100
window_size= 0.230, 0.520
pixel_size=300,600
window_pos= 0.510, 0.200
gauge00=T37bx9!IFF, 69,151,229,71
gauge01=T37bx9!V_UHF Comm, 66,294,233,61
gauge02=T37bx9!Nav_Tacan, 67,420,232,107
gauge03=T37bx9!G Meter, -47,148,110,114
gauge04=T37bx9!Hide Window3, 279,0,21,21

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
file=engine_panel.bmp
file_1024=engine_panel.bmp
size_mm=610
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=51
window_size= 1.000, 0.190
window_pos= 0.000, 0.820
gauge00=T37bx9!Battery Master Switch, 471,31,18,33
gauge01=T37bx9!Beacon Lights, 130,3,23,61
gauge02=T37bx9!Boost Pump Switch, 281,7,18,48
gauge03=T37bx9!Left Jet Starter, 207,7,59,49
gauge04=T37bx9!Nav_Strobe Lights, 77,5,31,54
gauge05=T37bx9!Panel Lights, 52,14,23,49
gauge06=T37bx9!Pitot Heater, 590,21,19,38
gauge07=T37bx9!Right Jet Starter, 320,7,60,49
gauge08=T37bx9!RightHornSilence, 537,33,20,20
gauge09=T37bx9!LeftHornSilence, 8,22,18,20
gauge10=T37bx9!Left Generator Switch, 447,22,20,53
gauge11=T37bx9!Right Generator Switch, 491,22,20,53
gauge12=T37bx9!Invertor Switch, 392,12,25,49
gauge13=T37bx9!Hide Window4, 601,0,8,8

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
file=credits.bmp
file_1024=credits.bmp
size_mm=550,367
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=140
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
pixel_size=550,367
window_pos= 0.500, 0.500
gauge00=T37b_c9!Credit Strings, 2,155,205,52
gauge01=T37bx9!Hide Window5, 529,0,21,21
gauge02=T37bx9!VersionInfo, 2,205,192,24

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
file=XP38Nav.BMP
size_mm= 240
position= 0
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
gauge00=Lear_45!Autopilot, 1, 1, 238
gauge01=Extra-300!Pitch-Trim, 84, 69, 23
gauge02=737-400!Nav GPS Switch, 85, 39, 19
gauge03=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 120, 38, 117
gauge04=737-400!RMI, 1, 38, 62
gauge05=bendix_king_radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 120, 84, 117

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=100,18
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=90
window_size= 0.140, 0.045
window_pos= 0.620, 0.460
gauge00=T37bx9!Nav Channel Indicator, 0,0,100,18

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window07]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=400,562
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=80
window_size= 0.390, 0.732
pixel_size=400,562
window_pos= 0.610, 0.200
gauge00=T37bx9!TOLD Calc, 0,0,400,562
gauge01=T37bx9!Hide Window8, 379,0,21,21

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window08]
file=training_panel.bmp
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=499,186
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=TrngPanel
window_size= 0.360, 0.190
window_pos= 0.040, 0.060
gauge00=T37b_c9!Training Panel, 476,150,10,10
gauge01=T37bx9!Trg Pnl, 1,28,498,161
gauge02=T37bx9!Hide Window2, 476,-2,25,25

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window09]
Background_color=255,255,250
size_mm=437,49
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=83
window_size= 0.188, 0.032
window_pos= 0.250, 0.000
gauge00=T37bx9!Window 1, 10,2,45,45
gauge01=T37bx9!Window 2, 57,2,45,45
gauge02=T37bx9!Window 3, 104,2,45,45
gauge03=T37bx9!Window 4, 151,2,45,45
gauge04=T37bx9!Window 5, 198,2,45,45
gauge05=T37bx9!Window 6, 245,2,45,45
gauge06=T37bx9!Window 7, 292,2,45,45
gauge07=T37bx9!Window 8, 339,2,45,45
gauge08=T37bx9!Window 9, 386,2,45,45

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=4096,4096
texture=$tacan
gauge00=T37bx9!vcTacan, -405,-207,1800,2450


[8 Bit Colors]
color00=82,66,82
color01=165,156,173
color02=74,66,90
color03=24,24,41
color04=66,66,82
color05=57,57,66
color06=148,148,165
color07=140,140,156
color08=156,156,173
color09=173,173,189
color10=123,123,132
color11=165,165,173
color12=41,49,66
color13=74,82,99
color14=181,189,206
color15=99,107,123
color16=165,173,189
color17=198,206,222
color18=90,99,115
color19=189,198,214
color20=82,90,99
color21=33,41,49
color22=66,74,82
color23=107,115,123
color24=57,66,74
color25=189,198,206
color26=8,16,16
color27=66,74,74
color28=90,49,49
color29=74,66,66
color30=74,74,74
color31=66,66,66
[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=100,5,5
Luminous=255,155,155
[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=3715


Hope this works :mixedsmi:

Survived the puter crash, glad i made a back up just a few days ago (pfew!)

 

[falcon409]

Warrant,
Are you using the desktop icon for initiating the Tweet or are you going right from the Aircraft Selection Menu inside FSX?

 

[Warrant]

Warrant,
Are you using the desktop icon for initiating the Tweet or are you going right from the Aircraft Selection Menu inside FSX?

Through the aircraft selection menu. Must say i have a non-default aircraft selected at start-up.

 

[Naismith]

Intrigued by this I reinstalled the Tweet, first into FS9 then dragged it across into FSX. Doesn`t seem as though there are files outside the aircraft which need moving. All the gauges are in the panel folder and the effects files are in my FSX anyway. Didn`t check for external sound files. I edited the on screen Icon to point to FSX and started it first time that way. I found that doing this caused FSX to start in a virgin state, i.e FSUIPC etc had to be re-integrated. The T-37 start fine using CTRL-E and flew beautifully. I noticed that one or gauges did not function however and there was a very slight canopy glass issue. I came out of FSX and restarted it in the regular way without using the on screen icon. It was as before, flew nice couple of gauges not working and there is an intake flap or something on the upper wings near the fuselage I could not get to retract.
An interesting thing happened though. When I went F10 to the 2D cockpit and then back to F9 3D cockpit, the engines cut out and nothing would start them again, but the gauges were working as per normal. With a bit of work by someone who knows what they are doing I am sure this bird could be made perfect again.

 

[hews500d]

I kept getting a message saying I had a pirated copy when I installed in both fs9 and fsx on my new pc. Have had no luck getting a response from the developer, so sadly, this one is gathering dust in the hangar.

Darrell

 

[falcon409]

Ok, just looked over what you have and what I just installed and aside from a P-38 panel which I don't have, I don't see any difference from the basic aircraft that many of us tried and failed to get to run. I'm going to try a few times to see if it will, but based on what I see, I'm not holding out any hope that this will be any more successful than the previous attempts.

I'll let you know in just a bit.:salute:

 

[Warrant]

It was as before, flew nice couple of gauges not working and there is an intake flap or something on the upper wings near the fuselage I could not get to retract.

Try crtl W (or the key you have designated for visor key).

 

[Warrant]

Just flown the bird again and noticed i do not have the panel loaded as i did a while ago Must have gone after a re-install of FSX a while ago. I need to get through stuff to find the originally modified panel file (had most of the gauges changed with payware Carenado gauges). Luckily i always make backups. When found i can give you fooks a heads up of what goes where, but you have to do the stuff yourselves (authors rights), if you have those payware birds as well. I remember many came from the T-34, and some from other Cessna's.

 

[jojohnson9]

Just flown the bird again and noticed i do not have the panel loaded as i did a while ago Must have gone after a re-install of FSX a while ago. I need to get through stuff to find the originally modified panel file (had most of the gauges changed with payware Carenado gauges). Luckily i always make backups. When found i can give you fooks a heads up of what goes where, but you have to do the stuff yourselves (authors rights), if you have those payware birds as well. I remember many came from the T-34, and some from other Cessna's.

Looking forward to the mods you made. I give up! I have been messing with it for eight hours straight (I'm retired). I can have engines with no gauges, or vice versa. Right now I have some very nice static display airplanes.

 

[falcon409]

Took off from Bien Hoa AB and flew southwest to Binh Thuy AB (stationed there on A-37's). In the last pic, look closely off my left wing and you'll see a 123 on final approach to Can Tho Army Base which was just down the highway from us. It was pretty cool to see that, kind of an added bonus all thanks to the Vietnam War Project.:salute:

 

[falcon409]

If anyone figures out how to correct the exterior canopy transparency, let me know. There is one texture named "parts" that has the glass texture, but adding an alpha only changes the interior of the glass, the exterior remains cloudy. Odd. . .

 

[Bone]

I believe there's some misinterpretation as to how well this plane ports over. I've had it in FSX for a long while and I like it, but: The engine guages don't work, the altimeter needle will spin (but the window that displays "1000's" of feet doesn't work), the VSI/VVI doesn't work, the attitude indicator has a red flag, the start switches don't work, and a number of other small things.

 

[falcon409]

I believe there's some misinterpretation as to how well this plane ports over. I've had it in FSX for a long while and I like it, but: The engine guages don't work, the altimeter needle will spin (but the window that displays "1000's" of feet doesn't work), the VSI/VVI doesn't work, the attitude indicator has a red flag, the start switches don't work, and a number of other small things.

I agree. Warrant seems to be the only one who has been successful in correcting these issues by swapping out all the offending gauges. I have become spoiled by FSPanel Studio and the ability to easily swap out gauges. The Tweet is different in that respect in that the VC has no option for that. It appears that the VC gauges are part of the mdl file and as such, not easily replaced.

 

[falcon409]