Ultimate Terrain: Yay or nay?

wildcat400 said:
Under processes: Processes: 63 cpu usage 8% Physical memory: 45%

I stopped several processes from running while I am flying: Yahoo messenger, Aol messenger, a TON of HP processes were running (for my printer), and I will turn AVG (anti-virus software) off while flying also. Other than that all of the rest of them running are for windows themselves.

I also changed my changed my framerate to 26, turned the water down to 1,
changed the resolution mesh to 38m, and changed the texture resolution to 1m.

I also did a performance score for the windows expierence: Processor calculations per second: 5.3
and everything else listed there is 5.9
So my subscore is listed at 5.3

Sooo now, I will start FSX up (after I make some grub) and see what I have.
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Oh man, turn off all messengers and mail that run in the background you bet. Your system should cook at 5.3. The weak point in mine is a dual processor AMD at 3.3 MHz, pretty much everything else is rated 6.0.


A note on the resolution, unless you have the FSGenesis 9.6-meter mesh or happen to be flying in areas where MS used higher mesh than 38-meter, there is no need to ever set your Texture resolution higher than 38-meters. As I mentioned in another post, try setting your frame rate at 20. Here are my Custom Scenery Settings:

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And my Graphics Settings:

graphics_setting.jpg


Caz
 
Cazzie said:
wildcat,

Try lowering your frame rates to 20 as I do. I know 20 doesn't sound like much, but one thing I have noticed on my computer's set-up. FSX does not stutter or hesitate, it is a constant. If I turn the info text off, I can rarely tell the difference in the 20 fps and when it drops to maybe 18 fps in heavy traffic.

You definitely have UTX in. Looks good. :ernae:

Did you see the little review I did hear comparing the three: Default + GTX + UTX?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=3800

Caz
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I have not seen your thread yet. But I will definately check it out!

Cazzie said:
Oh man, turn off all messengers and mail that run in the background you bet. Your system should cook at 5.3. The weak point in mine is a dual processor AMD at 3.3 MHz, pretty much everything else is rated 6.0.


A note on the resolution, unless you have the FSGenesis 9.6-meter mesh or happen to be flying in areas where MS used higher mesh than 38-meter, there is no need to ever set your Texture resolution higher than 38-meters. As I mentioned in another post, try setting your frame rate at 20. Here are my Custom Scenery Settings:

scenery_setting.jpg


And my Graphics Settings:

graphics_setting.jpg


Caz
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I set my settings as the same as yours.
1st pic was a few mins before I logged onto this site with my settings, and the 2nd pic is with your settings Caz:
P.S.
Yeah, I know I shouldn't have taken both for comparison purposes at night time. I really think that I am satisfied with how everything looks now. I used to hate flying at night, but the way this looks I might just do a few more cross country hops! :d
 
While your previous screenshot of the Redskins stadium showed no blurries and shows that you are seeing the UTX features, by changing settings to what Cazzie has the blurries have returned. His system is obviously more capable than yours, and settings he may be able to run well are driving yours back into suffering from performance issues.

Jeff
 
quantumleap said:
While your previous screenshot of the Redskins stadium showed no blurries and shows that you are seeing the UTX features, by changing settings to what Cazzie has the blurries have returned. His system is obviously more capable than yours, and settings he may be able to run well are driving yours back into suffering from performance issues.

Jeff
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*sigh* I know see what you mean by those dreaded "blurries". Back to the way that I had it, then I am just going to stick with those settings.
 
To save your PC's resources, reduce water to 2x mid and reduce detail radius to medium, unless you are flying every time on 30k ft. Set autogen to normal/normal or even better, create few separate config files: for USA w/UTX, Asia and Africa (where the mesh and vector data is worse) and for Europe. For the jets, I would set ground textures to 2meter since it will load faster.
 
limjack said:
Just a shot to compare with wildcat. I purchased UTX about a month ago and here is the same shot out of Seattle. FSX+UTX
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Yours looks much better. I give up. I have been tinkering with the settings more than I would like to, and it has been taking away from my actual flying.

Bottom line is that I wish that the setting for UTX OR FSX would automatically adjust to the other. Know what I mean? That way there is no frustration for the user. And yes, I read the UTX manual about what they suggest.
 
wildcat - I feel your pain.

FSX is the most fiddley f'n program I ever see.

Your screenshots indicate that you have likely not seen some of the tweaks and settings suggestions that are available.

you need to set your water to 2x at best and then reduce all but global textures to one half..

set clouds to min draw distance and turn off the traffic completely - maybe leave GA aircraft at 8-10 percent but all other traffic needs to be off.

Start by seeing what your rig can handle well with 25-30 FPS locked and in default .cfg settings before you start raising the bar.

Locking FPS at the 25-30 range is critical by the way - the higher settings and 'unlimited' are hard even for extreme machines to cope with.

The lower settings act as a governor for your CPU and vid card and keep everything balanced

some of the FSX.cfg tweaks include reducing the number of trees and buildings that the autogen slider settings can produce - if you need to see how it is done pm me - I'll try to help you today if I can.

the .cfg file can also be used to make your graphics card work more efficiently in one or two other ways.

then there are files available that will reduce the clouds and trees texture size in half - you still get nicely rendered clouds and trees but at half the penalty or twice the speed as default.

then you can look at saving specific setting for the various planes and regions in FSX as was suggested - thats also very helpfull with some of the jets and locations that have high draw calls (processor intensive)

I know it gets tedious - believe me - but when FSX is smooth and crisp it is a beautiful thing.
 
wildcat400 said:
Yours looks much better. I give up. I have been tinkering with the settings more than I would like to, and it has been taking away from my actual flying.

Bottom line is that I wish that the setting for UTX OR FSX would automatically adjust to the other. Know what I mean? That way there is no frustration for the user. And yes, I read the UTX manual about what they suggest.
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I have tinkered more than I know and now I have forgotten where I have tinkered:isadizzy:. I sent you and IM on the setting I have UTX on.
:ernae:
Jim
 
limjack said:
I have tinkered more than I know and now I have forgotten where I have tinkered:isadizzy:. I sent you and IM on the setting I have UTX on.
:ernae:
Jim
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Hey Jim,
Ok, I have not given up yet. :costumes:
Received your pm, and will adjust accordingly.

I know that I can get my FSX with UTX looking great. I also know that it's not my pc that is the culprit. I have a 3 month old pc, upgraded graphics card, upgraded monitor, upgraded power supply, and tons of room on my hard drive. I tweaked my pc's settings to allow my cpu to run faster, heck I pretty much tweaked everything else known to mankind. The quest continues....
 
Safeco Field (home of baseballs Seattle Mariners) is to the left. I am not from Seattle, but I am assuming that is the Seattle skyline also:
P.S.
I have noticed something. The pics that I post here are not a clear as how it looks when I take them.
 
OK, is this a gateway system? I checked ECS website for more info on the board but its not listed (might be under a different name). Being that its a Nvidia chipset you might be able to use Nvidia's Ntune to overclock. But, being that its an oem board your BIOS might be limited as to what you can do.

Being that your cpu is running at 2.1 ghz and your trying to get your fps at 30 your overworking your cpu which inturn is causing the blurries that you see. FSX is very cpu dependent. I would try out some of the tweaks in that guide I posted and drop your fps to somewhere between 20 and 25 (find the best combo for your system). I have a pretty highend system and lock my frames at 25 and thats pretty much where they stay, unless i try to fly out of some of the frame rate heavy cities like seattle, new york and tokyo. :banghead::d

Joe
 
Butcherbird17 said:
OK, is this a gateway system? I checked ECS website for more info on the board but its not listed (might be under a different name). Being that its a Nvidia chipset you might be able to use Nvidia's Ntune to overclock. But, being that its an oem board your BIOS might be limited as to what you can do.

Being that your cpu is running at 2.1 ghz and your trying to get your fps at 30 your overworking your cpu which inturn is causing the blurries that you see. FSX is very cpu dependent. I would try out some of the tweaks in that guide I posted and drop your fps to somewhere between 20 and 25 (find the best combo for your system). I have a pretty highend system and lock my frames at 25 and thats pretty much where they stay, unless i try to fly out of some of the frame rate heavy cities like seattle, new york and tokyo. :banghead::d
Joe
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Yep. It's a Gateway GT5670 desktop.

In post #52 of this thread, how does that look to you?
 
It looks alot better then some of your other pics. Another thing to try is lowering your visibility to 20 or 30 miles. That will help in masking the blurries
especially in Seattle which is not known for to many clear days. I took a quick flight out of Seattle using real weather and couldn't see the tower it was so fogged in.:d
Here is a pic somewhere on the west coast (I think its Vegas).

Joe
 
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