Upcoming Race Event
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Willy
Administrator
salt_air
Charter Member
Amen to that! :ernae:
Seems I remember a real good panel upgrade for that bird,,,,even includes a Radio Range hook up.
I was gonna use it on one of Red Greens' adventures....a flight from La Guardia to Holkham Bay (near Juneau).
Wound up in the RR equiped DC-3 "riding the beam" all the way across.
That was a lot of fun!
I'll wait on the rules post,,,,the 307 could be just the plane.
Willy
Administrator
Don't forget the DC-2s, DC-3s, DC-4s, DC-6s, Connies, B377s, Convair 240/340, C-46 Commandos, etc. And there's a lot of non-US big iron out there too like the Avro Yorks, Lancastrians, HP Hermes, Canadairs, some interesting Italian and French aircraft too. If you find one that you're wondering if it's legal or not, ask.
RedGreen
Charter Member
Indeed. I'm very curious to see the handicapping system that's going to allow a DC-2 to compete with a Stratocruiser!
Speaking of the Stratocruiser, I'm sort of curious as to why that plane will be allowed while the DC-7 and the Starliner are forced on the sidelines. (I think all three of those planes are pretty similar in performance....in fact the B377 may be even faster than the other two.)
Not that I would mind flying a DC-6 for this competition, but I did kinda have my heart set on the DC-7.
Speaking of the Stratocruiser, I'm sort of curious as to why that plane will be allowed while the DC-7 and the Starliner are forced on the sidelines. (I think all three of those planes are pretty similar in performance....in fact the B377 may be even faster than the other two.)
Not that I would mind flying a DC-6 for this competition, but I did kinda have my heart set on the DC-7.
Moses said on page 1 "the cutoff date for production aircraft is 1951 or so" which means the DC-7 and Starliner are too young to compete as neither went into production until after that date.
RedGreen
Charter Member
Hard to carry passengers in a bomber
No not hard at all Willy and if they start getting Testy....
Hey All,
Not hard to carry passengers in a bomber. Just set em in the crew stations. How many would that be on a B-17? Plus you could have a few just settin around. As for the Mossie there was a VIP passenger carrying variant.
The plane I'm curious about is JBK's Tudor - a nicely modeled taildragger passenger carrying plane. It either barely does or does not make the 1951 cutoff.
-Ed-
Not hard to carry passengers in a bomber. Just set em in the crew stations. How many would that be on a B-17? Plus you could have a few just settin around. As for the Mossie there was a VIP passenger carrying variant.
The plane I'm curious about is JBK's Tudor - a nicely modeled taildragger passenger carrying plane. It either barely does or does not make the 1951 cutoff.
-Ed-
Willy
Administrator
Just wanted to clarify a couple of things here.
This event is going to be about propliners and airmanship. While eligible, DC-2s probably won't stand much of a chance of winning but if someone wants to fly one, then more power to them. We're more worried about some of the later propliners running off with the show, that's why the 1951 cutoff date. The DC-7s and late Connies would make it very difficult for anything else to be competitive.
We'll get more info out as soon as we can.
This event is going to be about propliners and airmanship. While eligible, DC-2s probably won't stand much of a chance of winning but if someone wants to fly one, then more power to them. We're more worried about some of the later propliners running off with the show, that's why the 1951 cutoff date. The DC-7s and late Connies would make it very difficult for anything else to be competitive.
We'll get more info out as soon as we can.
whitehawk_2009
Charter Member 2016
Hmm, big iron really isn't my strong point. Most SOH team members will remember I tend to stick to warbirds.
However, the SM.79 falls into both categories! Time to practice!
WH
However, the SM.79 falls into both categories! Time to practice!
WH
Flyin Bull
Charter Member
Ed,
the Avro Tudor first flew on the 14th June 1945. Im currently flight testing the Tudor as my possible entry
Steve
the Avro Tudor first flew on the 14th June 1945. Im currently flight testing the Tudor as my possible entry
Steve
salt_air
Charter Member
Hard to carry passengers in a bomber
Yeah,,,loadin' up is a chore, but unloading is a different story altogether!
Yup, the Tudor is good (looking at that one myself). Keep in mind when you are testing these propliners that fuel consumption will play a large role. For example, Manfred Jahn's new L-1049G Connie is a speedy ship but it sucks down the avgas pretty good (especially at high map & rpm). What we are trying to do is set up the race so that you are encouraged to fly within normal real-world operating specs. 
Critical alt will not be you best option at times. You might try experimenting with different altitudes, map/rpm settings to find that sweet spot that gives you best speed and range with min fuel flow.
We will be posting the race overview and list of eligible aircraft this weekend.
Critical alt will not be you best option at times. You might try experimenting with different altitudes, map/rpm settings to find that sweet spot that gives you best speed and range with min fuel flow.
We will be posting the race overview and list of eligible aircraft this weekend.
MM
Charter Member
From the Spring Event Team, here is a start:
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Evita
It is 1949 and the War is over. You've kicked around selling insurance, managing an orchestra and running a night club...but it all seems so very pedestrian. Your heart has been captured by the air. There must be a way to use your hard earned airmanship skills to fly for a living. But the domestic airlines are completely inundated with post war pilots. So you turn your eyes to the romance of foreign adventure.
Meanwhile, by 1949 Argentina and the wildly popular Peron regime have Argentina set to reenter the world’s economic stage. Argentina is an immigrant nation populated mostly by Europeans much as is the U.S. and Canada. With a multidimensional economy that combines agriculture, natural resources and heavy industry, the elites are confident about their nation’s future. And, as the rest of the world is only starting to recover from the war, Argentina is poised to become an economic power. The only obstacles are the geographic and cultural distances that separate the nation from the commercial centers of Europe and North America.
Wanting to showcase Argentina’s future, the regime has just completed Buenos Aires’ Ezeiza International Airport (SAEZ) which, at the moment, is the world’s largest airport. To integrate Argentina into the world economy, the political and business leaders want to establish both fast communications and regularized passenger air links with the major cities of both North America and Europe. Accordingly, they are conducting an aviation race to both encourage entrepreneurs and to capture the world’s attention.
The winner of the event will gain two critical advantages. First, the government has offered a substantial cash prize and the promise of lucrative air mail and airline contracts. And second, and most important, the government has negotiated the landing rights necessary to challenge the monopoly stranglehold of Pan American Airways and Panagra. (Pan Am and Panagra will be allowed to compete, but clearly the Peron government would prefer to find serious alternatives.) The winner will reap the rewards of opening up a new continent.
The Event
You have an opportunity to manage an entrant in the event. You may run an aircraft for one of the established airlines who are looking for entrepreneurs to take on that task. Or you may set up your own airline. The goal is to demonstrate a capacity to make a fast and stable connection between Buenos Aires and the centers of Europe and North America.
Each entrant selects an aircraft with an appropriate mix of speed, efficiency, range, and payload. You then begin with a full crew and passenger load (see below) and proceed toward Buenos Aires, visiting a specified number of Commercial Centers before completing the final leg to the cheers of a boisterous welcoming crowd.
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Evita
It is 1949 and the War is over. You've kicked around selling insurance, managing an orchestra and running a night club...but it all seems so very pedestrian. Your heart has been captured by the air. There must be a way to use your hard earned airmanship skills to fly for a living. But the domestic airlines are completely inundated with post war pilots. So you turn your eyes to the romance of foreign adventure.
Meanwhile, by 1949 Argentina and the wildly popular Peron regime have Argentina set to reenter the world’s economic stage. Argentina is an immigrant nation populated mostly by Europeans much as is the U.S. and Canada. With a multidimensional economy that combines agriculture, natural resources and heavy industry, the elites are confident about their nation’s future. And, as the rest of the world is only starting to recover from the war, Argentina is poised to become an economic power. The only obstacles are the geographic and cultural distances that separate the nation from the commercial centers of Europe and North America.
Wanting to showcase Argentina’s future, the regime has just completed Buenos Aires’ Ezeiza International Airport (SAEZ) which, at the moment, is the world’s largest airport. To integrate Argentina into the world economy, the political and business leaders want to establish both fast communications and regularized passenger air links with the major cities of both North America and Europe. Accordingly, they are conducting an aviation race to both encourage entrepreneurs and to capture the world’s attention.
The winner of the event will gain two critical advantages. First, the government has offered a substantial cash prize and the promise of lucrative air mail and airline contracts. And second, and most important, the government has negotiated the landing rights necessary to challenge the monopoly stranglehold of Pan American Airways and Panagra. (Pan Am and Panagra will be allowed to compete, but clearly the Peron government would prefer to find serious alternatives.) The winner will reap the rewards of opening up a new continent.
The Event
You have an opportunity to manage an entrant in the event. You may run an aircraft for one of the established airlines who are looking for entrepreneurs to take on that task. Or you may set up your own airline. The goal is to demonstrate a capacity to make a fast and stable connection between Buenos Aires and the centers of Europe and North America.
Each entrant selects an aircraft with an appropriate mix of speed, efficiency, range, and payload. You then begin with a full crew and passenger load (see below) and proceed toward Buenos Aires, visiting a specified number of Commercial Centers before completing the final leg to the cheers of a boisterous welcoming crowd.
I hope users of Accu-Sim technology will be allowed to turn it off for the race otherwise it may be a bit unfair if they are forced to fly while trying to maintain full engine management while others are in point and fly aircraft.