Navy Chief
Senior Member
Got it working, thanks! NC
-
There seems to be an uptick in Political comments in recent months. Those of us who are long time members of the site know that Political and Religious content has been banned for years. Nothing has changed. Please leave all political and religious comments out of the forums.
If you recently joined the forums you were not presented with this restriction in the terms of service. This was due to a conversion error when we went from vBulletin to Xenforo. We have updated our terms of service to reflect these corrections.
Please note any post refering to a politician will be considered political even if it is intended to be humor. Our experience is these topics have a way of dividing the forums and causing deep resentment among members. It is a poison to the community. We appreciate compliance with the rules.
The Staff of SOH
USS Boxer (LHD-4)?
- Thread starter ZsoltB
- Start date
PhantomTweak
Members +
Just a note about AICarriers: There is a newer version out that uses MUCH less in the way of computer resources than the original. It may be DL'd here: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,11293.msg86978.html#msg86978
It was coded by a man named Orion Lau the FSDT forums. I strongly recommend using it instead of the original. It's functionality is identical to the original, but it utilizes the .NET Framework, rather than the Java runtimes the original uses.
All the .cfg files included, or created, for AI ships for the original, work exactly the same. Just drop them into the conf.d folder. I keep a subfolder in the conf.d folder so I can easily swap formations in and out as I want to use them.
By the way, AICarriers also permits you to set any ship placed into motion, with a default speed of 25kts. It also lets you turn them, stop them, whatever. Once the ship is placed, hit SHFT+J again, and you will get another menu pop up with the movement choices on it.
Also, I like to have it start automatically using the EXE.XML file included with FSX. I'm lazy
Good luck, and have fun!
Pat☺
It was coded by a man named Orion Lau the FSDT forums. I strongly recommend using it instead of the original. It's functionality is identical to the original, but it utilizes the .NET Framework, rather than the Java runtimes the original uses.
All the .cfg files included, or created, for AI ships for the original, work exactly the same. Just drop them into the conf.d folder. I keep a subfolder in the conf.d folder so I can easily swap formations in and out as I want to use them.
By the way, AICarriers also permits you to set any ship placed into motion, with a default speed of 25kts. It also lets you turn them, stop them, whatever. Once the ship is placed, hit SHFT+J again, and you will get another menu pop up with the movement choices on it.
Also, I like to have it start automatically using the EXE.XML file included with FSX. I'm lazy
Good luck, and have fun!
Pat☺
may,I ask where did you get that carrier in this pic?Thanks
So, the RAZBAM Harrier interior/exterior more beautiful, but SSW Harrier have better flight dynamics!
ZsoltB
Charter Member
SSW Cavour
where do you download it at?BTW thank you
PhantomTweak
Members +
I found it in FS Shipyards, the download is http://www.fs-shipyards.com/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=362
Is that what you're looking for?
Pat☺
Is that what you're looking for?
Pat☺
ZsoltB
Charter Member
Thanks for the info Pat.
jagl04
Charter Member
If you are interested in Marina militare (Italian) ships, try this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IuZdIA6yd2Nr5BhxAjOXfbBwsEBeHV3mmPO7EmUpTGc/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IuZdIA6yd2Nr5BhxAjOXfbBwsEBeHV3mmPO7EmUpTGc/edit
ian elliot
SOH-CM-2025
Apologies for changing the subject, but where did you get the merchant vessels and your RFA's for your Falklands task force Dave, i made up my own Canberra in FSDS but its a bit ropy, if there's a better one out there, i'd like to give it a go
, cheers ian, ive just bought the Wilco Harrier and i fancy some south Atlantic flying.cheers ian
DaveB
Charter Member
The RFA Rovers were pulled from a static set originally and converted to AI (it's in the library here.. FSX_Modern_Expansion or something very similar) and the individual hulls were painted up. For some of the others.. I use Henrik's T2's. Canberra and the Sir's are courtesy of another sim and as such.. are unavailable I'm afraid. Damn shame as the author was contacted but no reply was ever received.
I have a 'close-in' version of that TG which covers a lot of water but the one posted is the extended version and takes a lot of time to fly around!!
ATB
DaveB
I have a 'close-in' version of that TG which covers a lot of water but the one posted is the extended version and takes a lot of time to fly around!!
ATB
DaveB
ian elliot
SOH-CM-2025
Thanks Dave, think i know where your coming from, i'll have a look at my old FSDS models and see if i can revamp them. 
While were about it, here's an update for the Rover class RFA. I stuck an ensign back on. The old one had an incompatible animation, so; pfffst! crumpled up.
Can't get rid of the stub that's left, but some clever texture diddling might hide it. Looks a bit better, though. I also replaced the fonts on the pad identifier and the pendant number with a more accurate font- RAF PW- though the name and registry are the same-close enough and the PW font isn't small enough. The font set is in the library here. If anybody wants them.View attachment 44897
Can't get rid of the stub that's left, but some clever texture diddling might hide it. Looks a bit better, though. I also replaced the fonts on the pad identifier and the pendant number with a more accurate font- RAF PW- though the name and registry are the same-close enough and the PW font isn't small enough. The font set is in the library here. If anybody wants them.View attachment 44897
DaveB
Charter Member
Cheers Laz
Your first conversion was/is definitely fit for purpose and features in pretty well all of my RN formations. I've always wondered about the size of the model.. nothing you've done in the conversion. It always seems just a little big.
Ship side numbers are a law unto themselves and not an available font. Ripoffs of decal sheets are the easiest way to go. For deck letters.. agree that RAF_PW is close enough. Bow and stern names are impossible without doubling the size of the map.
Here's a quickie of your first conversion with side numbers changed and funnel black at a jaunty angle rather than horizontal..
Show-offs!!
ATB
DaveB
Your first conversion was/is definitely fit for purpose and features in pretty well all of my RN formations. I've always wondered about the size of the model.. nothing you've done in the conversion. It always seems just a little big.
Ship side numbers are a law unto themselves and not an available font. Ripoffs of decal sheets are the easiest way to go. For deck letters.. agree that RAF_PW is close enough. Bow and stern names are impossible without doubling the size of the map.
Here's a quickie of your first conversion with side numbers changed and funnel black at a jaunty angle rather than horizontal..
Show-offs!!
ATB
DaveB
Yeah, I keep wondering about the size, too. They didn't strike me as overly large ships, but I was looking at the fit of the seathing on the deck.
461x63', not huge but still hefty. I'll have another go at it. I'll make a full sized ruler up, export that, lay it in with the model and see.
Never thought of that before. I ran into the same deal with the St.Laurents and Sulaco. Built right to the book dimensions, but they looked about 10% too small compared the the Virtavia Seaking and Dropship when I got them in sim.
The Tarawa's should go in the library, too, but I've not been able to smoke out Al Webber. Sooner or later. This is the first time in ages I've been able to get into the library, so I'm uploading and updating there. More latter, then.
461x63', not huge but still hefty. I'll have another go at it. I'll make a full sized ruler up, export that, lay it in with the model and see.
Never thought of that before. I ran into the same deal with the St.Laurents and Sulaco. Built right to the book dimensions, but they looked about 10% too small compared the the Virtavia Seaking and Dropship when I got them in sim.
The Tarawa's should go in the library, too, but I've not been able to smoke out Al Webber. Sooner or later. This is the first time in ages I've been able to get into the library, so I'm uploading and updating there. More latter, then.
DaveB
Charter Member
I've been looking for some way to measure the Rovers in MCX (or any other way) for a long time but failed and gave up. Today.. a light shone (though not a very bright one)!!!
Here's an overhead shot with Fearless alongside as a comparison. I have to assume that DaveG got his measurements right as the LPH's scale well against other units and helicopters.
Now the hard facts..
HMS Fearless
Length 520ft(158.5m) overall
Beam 80ft
RFA Rover class
Length 461ft
Beam 63ft
EDIT: added another shot with post refit Victorious on the other side..
Length overall: 743ft
Flight deck width: 145.9ft
Quite a bit of air needs letting out the AOR!!
ATB
DaveB
Here's an overhead shot with Fearless alongside as a comparison. I have to assume that DaveG got his measurements right as the LPH's scale well against other units and helicopters.
Now the hard facts..
HMS Fearless
Length 520ft(158.5m) overall
Beam 80ft
RFA Rover class
Length 461ft
Beam 63ft
EDIT: added another shot with post refit Victorious on the other side..
Length overall: 743ft
Flight deck width: 145.9ft
Quite a bit of air needs letting out the AOR!!
ATB
DaveB
The boundingbox gives a length of 105.45 + 108.432 = 213.882m
Scale corrected. I drew a rectangle at 461x63, exported it, counted grids, scaled, merged the yard stick to check. Is the length and beam quoted taken at the waterline, as usual practice? Anyway, I went with waterline dimensions. About as close as I can make it.
View attachment 44903
View attachment 44903
DaveB
Charter Member
Hello mate..
Beam is usually waterline (you will only get one measurement) but length is open to negotiation. Fearless/Intrepid are listed as 520ft overall and 500ft waterline. I couldn't find a waterline measurement for the Rovers but this will pull it into line. Off for a look now and thanks for taking this on regardless
EDIT: Had a look and she looks MUCH better now. Thanks ever so
One very small point.. RFA's fly the Blue Ensign not the White Ensign but I'll have that changed in 2 shakes of a very small lambs tail
Edit:2.. Further to the above.. the original had a White Ensign on the map which didn't display so it wasn't your doing.
ATB
DaveB
Beam is usually waterline (you will only get one measurement) but length is open to negotiation. Fearless/Intrepid are listed as 520ft overall and 500ft waterline. I couldn't find a waterline measurement for the Rovers but this will pull it into line. Off for a look now and thanks for taking this on regardless
EDIT: Had a look and she looks MUCH better now. Thanks ever so
One very small point.. RFA's fly the Blue Ensign not the White Ensign but I'll have that changed in 2 shakes of a very small lambs tail
Edit:2.. Further to the above.. the original had a White Ensign on the map which didn't display so it wasn't your doing.
ATB
DaveB
Last edited: