Vanished: The disapearance of the Star Dust

Trucker, I would clarify my point; yes the discovery of an aircraft's wreckage 50 years after it went missing does make for an interesting story. Its the nature of the documentary's making, the garnish of contrived mystery and intrigue, that is my bug bear.

As for each of these sunken ships having a story to tell, well, in the majority of cases the story can be told in two or three sentences. If you had a huge book that detailed every merchant ship lost in both world wars, by page 40 or 50, you'd be leafing through it. By page 100 you'd be putting it back on the shelf. Two or three sentences would have summed up the whole 50 minutes of that documentary, without all the tedious hushed and foreboding tones of the commentary. Its not the subject so much as how its reported that irritates me.

By the way, one question raised in Star Dust documentary was left unanswered - the ex-BSAA captain they interviewed, the one who'd flown out to assist in the search...did he know what STENDEC meant ? If it had been a standard acronym, either generally or within BSAA, surely he would have known. Unfortunately he was never asked, at least not on camera.
 
If reception was dubious & the morse operator not so good as the sender & copying it down with bad separation of the dots & dashes it could have read STARDUST!
Keith

Firstly,
thoroughly enjoyed this, Got me wanting to know if more has come to earth since the documentary.

Now, I can see how the Morse may have been confused, especially the Star/Sten section. The latter part is a bit further afield, but at speed, plausible.

... - .- .-. -.. ..- ... -
S T A R D U S T
... - .- .-. -.. ..- ... -
... - . -. -.. . -.-.
S T EN D E C
... - . -. -.. . -.-.

ARD= .- .-. -..

END= . -. -..
 
Geomatric. I wasn't aiming my response at you bud.....
I used the bit about time and news and documentaries as a way of showing the difference between the 2......
True the documentaries of today cant compete with the documentaries of the past, Back then they went deeper into the scene then they do today....Like doing more then just saying that the Star Dust was a civilian version of the Lancaster Bomber.....That's fine for people like us who know about the Lancaster....But many out their don't even know what a Lancaster looks like.....Its one of them planes that is less known, as with many others out their....
The show did answer a few questions about what happened to the Star Dust, and still left many, many more unanswered.....All in all some of the questions that were answered was good. But it left to many unanswered.....But that's the way they shoot documentaries today. To fast with not enough info to answer all the questions.....which is why we watch them to begin with, to get answers to what we have heard.....:salute:
 
No problems Trucker. Thank you for indulging me, and allowing me to vent my spleen on your thread that merely started out as a link to a Youtube. All the very best...and if I find the link to that sunken ship vid, I'll let you know so you can waste 50 minutes of your time on Earth the way I did ! :icon_lol:

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No problems Trucker. Thank you for indulging me, and allowing me to vent my spleen on your thread that merely started out as a link to a Youtube. All the very best...and if I find the link to that sunken ship vid, I'll let you know so you can waste 50 minutes of your time on Earth the way I did ! :icon_lol:

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Only if you pass the Beer and Pretzels:icon_lol:
 
Here's a thought I had earlier after I was chatting on teamspeak, and with vox on, the start of my message was missed...

What if, the start and or end of the message were garbled or missing due to range and interference? what if S T EN D E C was something more?

two words, two halves of words? misheard and combined into one?
 
Here's a thought I had earlier after I was chatting on teamspeak, and with vox on, the start of my message was missed...

What if, the start and or end of the message were garbled or missing due to range and interference? what if S T EN D E C was something more?

two words, two halves of words? misheard and combined into one?

Very possible, that is something we will never know for sure......
 
Here's a thought I had earlier after I was chatting on teamspeak, and with vox on, the start of my message was missed...

What if, the start and or end of the message were garbled or missing due to range and interference? what if S T EN D E C was something more?

two words, two halves of words? misheard and combined into one?

That won't be the case...it was sent via Morse.
The Doc mentions TWO subsequent repeats of the trans.
No Op is going to be so incompetent as to mis-read a transmission three times.
There was no reference to clarity or lack of with transmissions...only a non-understood acronym.

Sadly, my old man turned up his toes 5 years ago....but I can bet he could shed some light on it. School of Marconi in the 30's ...Signals Corp in WW2 and DCA [Flight Service] post war till retirement.... then Ham to the end [VK3-DEK]
He always thought it humorous the 'Jerries' would end trans with 'H H' .... took out the doubt as to who he was listening to...;)
 
Trucker, I would clarify my point; yes the discovery of an aircraft's wreckage 50 years after it went missing does make for an interesting story. Its the nature of the documentary's making, the garnish of contrived mystery and intrigue, that is my bug bear.

As for each of these sunken ships having a story to tell, well, in the majority of cases the story can be told in two or three sentences. If you had a huge book that detailed every merchant ship lost in both world wars, by page 40 or 50, you'd be leafing through it. By page 100 you'd be putting it back on the shelf. Two or three sentences would have summed up the whole 50 minutes of that documentary, without all the tedious hushed and foreboding tones of the commentary. Its not the subject so much as how its reported that irritates me.

By the way, one question raised in Star Dust documentary was left unanswered - the ex-BSAA captain they interviewed, the one who'd flown out to assist in the search...did he know what STENDEC meant ? If it had been a standard acronym, either generally or within BSAA, surely he would have known. Unfortunately he was never asked, at least not on camera.


I think I know what you mean Geomitrak.
Yes, the facts can be told in a few minutes, but these shows need something for an hour.
Sometimes there is an interesting story to be told, and it is interesting to watch.
But the thing I really dislike is when they dramatise the show. Keep the drama in the movies.
 
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