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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

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Veneaviones Rockwell Turbo Commander 690B VC Upgrade

No Panel Studio either although I wouldn't mind having it. Can it place VC gauges as well?

My version is not quite as fancy as expat's but I'm pleased. I found Falcon409's BAE146 altitude select window and added it today. Plain old GPS500 instead of the nice 430/530 expat has. It's just a panel filler as I use the popup for real navigation.

Only two things bothering me now. The compass needs a surround. Expat how did you do yours? I think the radios look one dimensional too. Any suggestions for that?

Obie311
 
Obie311 said:
No Panel Studio either although I wouldn't mind having it. Can it place VC gauges as well?

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Obie311
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Very nice work there Obie :)

Yes it can if you allow it by doing a little bit of work. I use it for all my VC work.

See attached.

What I do is create a panel.cfg for each vcockpit section, named appropriately. While working on them, I rename the normal panel.cfg to panel2d.cfg.

The vcockpit sections each get their own named panelvc01, 02, 03, 04.cfg. All you need in it is window00.

As I work on each, I rename it to panel.cfg.
When done, I copy the new gauge entries back to the panel2d.cfg.

So just setup a panel.cfg for each vcockpitnn entry as if it were a 2D cockpit. Work on it, copy the results back to the main panel.cfg when done.
 
Posting again the "fixitkit" that fixes the solid windscreen in FSX and has some air.cfg mods to stop the a/c pitching upwards.
 
expat said:
Posting again the "fixitkit" that fixes the solid windscreen in FSX and has some air.cfg mods to stop the a/c pitching upwards.
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Thanks Expat. Does the windshield fix also fix the whiskey compass surround? Does the air.cfg include Milton's tweaks?

Obie
 
Just playing around a little bit. Came up with this "modern" cockpit layout using default gauges.
 
Does the windshield fix also fix the whiskey compass surround? Does the air.cfg include Milton's tweaks?
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My air.cfg pre-dates Milton's so you need to combine them/experiment to see which you like best. Milton's are posted earlier in this thread. I and others had a major problem with the plane pitching up on take off and when re-entering the sim. I found elsewhere the solution was to make the following tweak to the air.cfg:

htail_incidence = 0.500

People's mileage may vary etc.

Just playing around a little bit. Came up with this "modern" cockpit layout using default gauges.
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Very good! Looks like the one IRL posted furher back.
 
htail incidence was but a small part of the problem. CoG was at 40+% MAC but if it flies okay for you, what the heck. :)
 
Milton,

I have your most recent FM set - unadulterated except for some Shockwave lights - and she flies very nicely indeed!

expat
 
expat said:
Posting again the "fixitkit" <snip>
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Thanks Expat. Your alternate textvc4 file not only fixed the compass surround but it fixed the overhead control panel too. Thanks also to Milton for the excellent revised FM mods and Falcon409 for the handsome panel re-do. It has an astounding texture and legibility. I even marvel over the screw head detail. This package is well on it's way to being a 1st class FSX airplane.

One other quibble I noticed. The Veneaviones aircraft.cfg shows the flaps down stall speed as 90 Kias. I think it should be 76 Kias instead.

Any ideas for the remaining little slivers in the overhead window panels?

Obie</snip>
 
Any ideas for the remaining little slivers in the overhead window panels?
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Not sure. I don't usually look up there! (Doctor, it hurts when I do that . . )

Is there a parking brake anywhere for this?

Also, anyone having trouble getting the parking plugs and flags to appear?
 
Someone mentioned to me that the fuel burn/economy seems off. Specs (see Eagle Creek Aviation site) for the 690B suggest that at a cruise speed of 275 KTAS at FL260 the fuel burn should be about 60-90 gal per hour. Target seems to be around 75 gph. Assume these figures are for both engines, i.e. the whole aircraft, not just per engine. At high speed (295 KTAS) I get a burn of about 75 gph for EACH engine.

Testing now, with the fuel burn reading at about 45.5 gal per hour for each engine, I am crusing at FL260 but reading can only achieve 259 KTAS. Anyone have similar experiences?
 
Fuel consumption is easy to adjust. What are the real world burn rates under specific operating conditions and power settings.
 
expat said:
Someone mentioned to me that the fuel burn/economy seems off. Specs (see Eagle Creek Aviation site) for the 690B suggest that at a cruise speed of 275 KTAS at FL260 the fuel burn should be about 60-90 gal per hour. Target seems to be around 75 gph. Assume these figures are for both engines, i.e. the whole aircraft, not just per engine. At high speed (295 KTAS) I get a burn of about 75 gph for EACH engine.

Testing now, with the fuel burn reading at about 45.5 gal per hour for each engine, I am crusing at FL260 but reading can only achieve 259 KTAS. Anyone have similar experiences?
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That figure of 75gph is for both engines. I have a pilot in Texas who is graciously copying his performance charts from his POH for me. I will get that file to Milton when I receive it.

On your other point, I too cannot get the plugs and pitot cover to appear. Where is that triggered? It's a nice feature for freeware. It would look especially cool with the cabin and baggage doors open.

Here is a link to a little discussion I was having with TC operators at Twin Commanders.
http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=279

Obie311
 
Thanks Obie. My tweaks required but an hour to fix noted issues with weight and balance and climbout/approach/landing pitch. I didn't focus on performance.

With proper performance data, I could look at doing a new FM if I can make the time with my other projects and library moves.
No promises on that.
 
expat said:
Is there a parking brake anywhere for this?
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I don't think there is a visible one at least not in the VC. My default flight starts w/ engines on and parking brake set. So the parking brake is virtually enabled. It can be release with the "." keystroke but I've never been able to reset it. I think on the actual a/c it's under the gear handle just to the left of the power levers.
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Obie311
 
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