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Vertigo Studios TBF Avenger

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This is not meant as an attack on Vertigo or any other payware developer, but I have some mixed feelings about them doing aircraft like the B-25, DC-3 of Avenger. Don't get me wrong, they do really great stuff and I can understand that they're also trying to make a living. But somehow I fear those releases will eat into the MAAM-sales when they get ready to redo those aircraft for FSX.

I know some of you will say that the MAAM-planes may still be a long way off and it would be great to have those Vertigo-planes in the meantime, but still ... Is the majority of the (general) public going to buy another release of the same plane? I very much doubt that. Since I'm not that "hot" about the B-25 and DC-3, I will wait for the MAAM-releases in the knowledge that the money will go to the preservation of the real aircraft. Having said that, I hope these planes will prove to be a succes for Vertigo also.
 
Sweeeeeet. I couldn't get the Maam-Sim Avenger to work in FSX but now it looks like I'll someday be able to fly this bird again. Kudos to Vertigo for going out to look for experts on this aircraft (as I think they've done for others). That can be a double-edged sword too but hopefully they'll get the info they need to make it stunning aircraft.

And I can't wait to try and take their B-25 off of the deck of their upcoming Enterprise flattop.:jump:
 
Looking forward to the avenger and B25 particularly.

I wish MAAM all the best and happily bought their DC2 to support the preservation of the aircraft. FSX has been out for a long time, so I don't have a problem with VS producing aircraft that MAAM have previously done for FS9 and not had time to bring to FSX standards.

I would consider the purchase of the MAAM version as a donation to the aircraft preservation with the bonus of an FSX aircraft, rather than the other way around. I gave to the preservation of the Vulcan recently and there was no such bonus associated with it.
 
Lawman said:
This is not meant as an attack on Vertigo or any other payware developer, but I have some mixed feelings about them doing aircraft like the B-25, DC-3 of Avenger. Don't get me wrong, they do really great stuff and I can understand that they're also trying to make a living. But somehow I fear those releases will eat into the MAAM-sales when they get ready to redo those aircraft for FSX.

I know some of you will say that the MAAM-planes may still be a long way off and it would be great to have those Vertigo-planes in the meantime, but still ... Is the majority of the (general) public going to buy another release of the same plane? I very much doubt that. Since I'm not that "hot" about the B-25 and DC-3, I will wait for the MAAM-releases in the knowledge that the money will go to the preservation of the real aircraft. Having said that, I hope these planes will prove to be a succes for Vertigo also.
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MAAM sim will be MAAM sim! It takes a loooooong time before release, but when finally there.....!

I would not be to worried about that. If MAAM releases it's TBM Avenger for FSX, it will sell itself. They will have that nitty gritty detail that nobody thought about, and it will be great!

People who purchased the Aerosoft F-16 also purchased the IRIS Viper, right?
 
Sorry but MAAM finished work with Flight sims since FSX borns. DC-3 and B-25 was fantastic for FS9, but it was.... now I can say long, long time a go.
Port from FS9 to FSX isnt good choise. No native version - no flying so please dont talk about MAAM project here. They stopped support for FS series.
See this: http://www.maam.org/flightsim/news/tbm_rel_pr.htm
2008 ? Nice looking, but not FSX standard and maybe Im wrong (I hope!) but we never see FSX, native, new version of this TBM.
Lets see Vertigo TBM ! :)
 
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Sorry but MAAM finished work with Flight sims since FSX borns. DC-3 and B-25 was fantastic for FS9, but it was.... now I can say long, long time a go.
Port from FS9 to FSX isnt good choise. No native version - no flying so please dont talk about MAAM project here. They stopped support for FS series.
See this: http://www.maam.org/flightsim/news/tbm_rel_pr.htm
2008 ? Nice looking, but not FSX standard and maybe Im wrong (I hope!) but we never see FSX, native, new version of this TBM.
Lets see Vertigo TBM ! :)
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YoYo, sorry to disappoint you, but MAAM-sim is, and has been, alive and active in FS, including projects for FSX. Just because you haven’t seen anything yourself, doesn’t mean that there isn’t anything behind the curtain. Remember, excellence takes time, and they aren't being paid to do it (all money goes to the MAAM museum)! One of their main focuses right now is the N3N, which you can easily find screenshots of in a quick search of these forums.
 
Concerning the DC3, I have the default-modified, the JF version, and the FS9 MAAM version flying in FSX. Iam looking forward to the VS release and the MAAM FSX version. Why, because these are the kind of aircraft I like to fly. I do not think the VS DC3 will cut into the MAAM DC3 sales at all. Just more to enjoy.
 
This is a VS thread....lets drop the comparisons with MAAM.


MAAM does beautiful work and I will be there when their turkey comes out with all the trimmings to help out the museum.

However this is also a free market and VS has given us some great work since they have begun... particularly with the warbird crowd. In addition the TBF just makes sense for them considering they have released the F9F and SBD.

Lets see what the market bears eh? I would say the same thing if we had a MAAM announcement and people were talking about VS in their thread.

So good to see the B-25B plans I found actually coming to fruition.... me = :jump:

Guess I am going to see if I can put together:
USS Salt Lake City CA-25
USS Northampton CA-26
USS Vincennes CA-44
USS Nashville CL-43

since Big E is already in the works... seems it would be silly to build Hornet.... maybe I can talk Dean into making the changes hehehe.

Then we can have TF 16!
 
Uhhhh... seems to me MAAM-Sim did the B-25J... yep, I definitely bought the FS9 version of the B-25J from MAAM-Sim. The VS B-25 is an early production version of the B-25C, so both firms are producing different versions of the B-25.

Honestly, competition in any field leads to better outcomes.
 
sweet i love avenger its a great aircraft

i got a 1:18 scale model of one at home in az:salute:

this is flight 19 version

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Kiwikat said:
Neeeeed.... Patches........... First........

Seriously, we need the Bearcat and Panther patches.
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you all know that they are being worked on...in the meantime there is nothing unflyable about either plane. why some guys insist on taking potshots at deveopers simply because they may not be your favorites is beyond me.

it does nothing to help the hobby grow. anyone who is really that interested in those patches can alway stop by VS's website for an update on what's happeneing. it's really time we stopped doing that kind os stuff, especially in a

third-party forum. it's no wonder that some developers don't want to come around here. i mean think about it, i love MAAM so i'll take a potshot at VS...it doesn't make sense.

mho
 
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