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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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Vertigo Studios TBF Avenger

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mal998 said:
you all know that they are being worked on...in the meantime there is nothing unflyable about either plane. why some guys insist on taking potshots at deveopers simply because they may not be your favorites is beyond me.

it does nothing to help the hobby grow. anyone who is really that interested in those patches can alway stop by VS's website for an update on what's happeneing. it's really time we stopped doing that kind os stuff, especially in a third-party forum. it's no wonder that some developers don't want to come around here. i mean think about it, i love MAAM so i'll take a potshot at VS...it doesn't make sense.

mho
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If this were any other developer (The "A" word comes to mind...) all hell would break loose here at the outhouse. People would be up in arms complaining about the customer support and such. We have been waiting months for it to be patched and it hasn't happened yet. Other developers get patches done in hours, days, or even a couple weeks. I don't understand what is taking Vertigo so long to release a couple of patches.

I have nothing against Vertigo Studios, except they are very slow at patching their products (which is more of a fact rather than a personal opinion). Why you quote my post and say something like "taking potshots" is beyond me. They are really improving their products and I am eager to see how the DC-3 and B-25 are when finished. The Bearcat has become one of my favorite warbirds for FSX.


I'm not one of the people who mentioned MAAM in this thread so if your post was targeted at them, why did you quote me? You obviously meant to attack me since you went after a post of mine from 3 weeks ago. I think it was rather uncalled for. :ques:
 
OK before this goes any further, I mean to attack no one. All I'm suggesting here is that critical statements do not serve anyone's interest in a postive way. Particularly when made in a 3rd party setting.

If one has an issue to discuss with any developer they need to go to that website and take it up there. That is what I am suggesting.

Regarding Alphasim, it is fairly obvious that some people here had a bone to pick with their management and used any excuse to justify a verbal attack. That is now ancient history.

I've said my piece on the subject.

Now back to the subject of the thread...I look forward to having a nice new TBF to fly in FSX.
 
Warrant said:
Dunno. Are they posting somewhere else?
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Rene, I want them posting here...without fear. I want developers to feel free to post their project news and development shots on our forums.
Vertigo is a good example of a dev who doesn't post here now.
 
Roger said:
Rene, I want them posting here...without fear. I want developers to feel free to post their project news and development shots on our forums.
Vertigo is a good example of a dev who doesn't post here now.
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I'm with you old friend, and whish the same! I too have noticed a downfall in announcements by developers over here at SOH. And i also have noticed the bashing of developers over here in the past. Something that disturbes me!

I used to lurk around here to learn about what was in the developers stove pot, but now seems ages ago. I now need to browse the known developers sites in order to make sure i do not miss stuff.

What happened?
 
Kiwi wasn't bashing anyone. He simply said that devs need to fix their current products before they start putting out new products. Mal then jumped down his throat. Kiwikat made a completely true statement. He did nothing wrong.
 
Rezabrya said:
Kiwi wasn't bashing anyone. He simply said that devs need to fix their current products before they start putting out new products. Mal then jumped down his throat. Kiwikat made a completely true statement. He did nothing wrong.
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Try to understand this if you can...Vertigo don't post here anymore! Do you value their input into the FsX world or not? Would you be happy if they said "to heck with it, let's do something else"

Vertigo are continuing development of existing projects whilst collating information for patches.
 
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Kiwi wasn't bashing anyone. He simply said that devs need to fix their current products before they start putting out new products.
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+1! Nothing wrong with that. And about the devs not posting, i think that they must be adults to deal with good and bad comments. In fact, i think we all have to thanks the people that show the flaws. It´s vital feedback information to continue in the market and be able to make better and better addons, that all of us will be happy to buy.
 
flaviossa said:
+1! Nothing wrong with that. And about the devs not posting, i think that they must be adults to deal with good and bad comments. In fact, i think we all have to thanks the people that show the flaws. It´s vital feedback information to continue in the market and be able to make better and better addons, that all of us will be happy to buy.
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Make that information available to the developer in their own forum.

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Rezabrya said:
Kiwi wasn't bashing anyone. He simply said that devs need to fix their current products before they start putting out new products. Mal then jumped down his throat. Kiwikat made a completely true statement. He did nothing wrong.
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A true statement? Says who? Who wrote into law that they can't start work on another product before "fixing" a previously released product? Why can't they do both at the same time? Good grief. Another example of the "why" some of you say you're looking for, but refuse to see.
 
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