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VRS F/A-18: A reason to reinstall FS9

jmig

SOH-CM-2025
I know this is a FSX forum. However, I would like to talk a little about a FS9 aircraft. The reason I am bringing this here in the FSX forum is that I believe VRS F-18 could be a harbinger of what we can expect next year in FSX. Vertical Reality Simulations has demonstrated to other military aircraft companies like A2A, Razbam and Alphasim what can be done in MSFS. Considering what was done by VRS in FS9 one can only imagine what can be done in FSX when all these heads come together.

The VRS FA-18E Super Hornet was released this week for FS9. A FSX version is promised, provided they make enough to warrant the extra work. I for one really hope they do. It alone is a good reason to reinstall FS9.

Recently, I have been flying almost exclusive the wonderful Aerosoft F-16. The Aerosoft F-16 in my opinion raised the bar on flight modeling and VC graphics. It is what I wish others would have made. The VRS F-18, in my opinion, is to aircraft systems what the Aerosoft F-16 was to VC graphics and flight modeling.

In the first of five (5) aircraft documents and three appendixes, Jon Blum stated that he wanted the F-18 to be the PMDG 737 of military fighters. I don’t own the PMDG 737. Nor have I ever flown it. However, I am familiar with it from my cockpit building buddies who seem to love the plane. Based on what I know of the PMDG 737 and real fighter aircraft, I would say he succeeded technically.

I was disappointed that Aerosoft left out most of the weapons systems and military functions from their F-16. Alphasim’s spokesperson has stated that weapons systems could not be duplicated within the MSFS environment. Vertical Reality Simulations has done just that.

Let me mention up front. If your idea of flying a fighter is “kick the tires and light the fire” save your money. Like the PDG 737 you will need to prepare yourself to experience the VRS F-18E. I had flashbacks of my own RTU experience as I read through the five manuals provided on pdf. Jon has duplicated half of the Dash-1 and parts of other manuals. All that was missing was the IP asking, “What do you lose with failure of hydraulic system one?” in an EP standup.

It takes half an hour or so to get FS9 ready for the aircraft. The aircraft has to take over FS9’s controls to provide the many function not found in FS9. So, you have to make some changes to the set up. It need only be done once, however. Your reward is an almost fully functioning array of radar and weapons systems.

The Aerosoft F-16 and Acceleration F-18 allow you to lock on to an AI aircraft. The VRS will allow you to lock on, get a tone and SHOOT light, and then blow the poor sucker out of the sky. Well, actually what happens is you see the missiles leave your airplane. You hear the explosion and the AI disappears from your radar. You really get a feel for the awesome fire power these weapons systems contain.

I flew one mission where I bombed two targets with GBU-31s. You can tell the difference when the weapon is released and later hear the explosion. From my first target to second, I had to add aileron trim to compensate for the added weight and drag on the right wing.

I then blew out of the sky two drug runners pretending to be a Bombardier and a Cessna Caravan with AIM 9s. On the bombing run, I had the Azimuth Steering Line (ASI) which I tracked the target through and released at the cue. For the AIM 9’s, I had an authentic growl in my ears and weapon release information displayed on the HUD.

You can also run into enemy SAM and AAA on these targets, which gives you an opportunity to punch out a few chaff bundles or release an ECM decoy (wish we had those in my day). Also, be sure an keep an eye on your working RWR scope. If not, you may receive damage and then you better know what you will lose with the loss of your number one engine and hydraulic system.

Yes, CAP pilots and mud diggers alike will find much to love with the VRS F-18E. It is reason alone to reinstall FS9.
 
I,ll wait few more years for the FSX version but I dont think one plane will make me turn back to FS9..Merry Christmas !!
 
So this plane doesn't work at all in FSX ? What are the problems ? Which gauges are not working exactely ? Some FSX users might appreciate your feedback, I think :)
 
I,ll wait few more years for the FSX version but I dont think one plane will make me turn back to FS9..Merry Christmas !!

Couldn't have said it any better. There's no way I will ever use FS9 again unless it is for beta testing.

Merry Christmas everyone:friday:
 
I,ll wait few more years for the FSX version but I dont think one plane will make me turn back to FS9..Merry Christmas !!

Exactly! But I appreciate the info and look forward to the FSX version.

I wouldn't even reinstall to beta a product since all commercial development should be geared for future sims IMO.
 
I,ll wait few more years for the FSX version but I dont think one plane will make me turn back to FS9..Merry Christmas !!

Me too. Acceleration + Captain Sim's XLoad expansion quite satisfy my needs.
Merry Christmas!!!!!
 
Me too. Acceleration + Captain Sim's XLoad expansion quite satisfy my needs.
Merry Christmas!!!!!

Before I tried the VRS F/A-18 I would have agreed with you. After flying it for a couple hours...dang it, I WISH they had made the FSX version first. It is that good.
 
So nobody has tested it in FSX yet ? :kilroy:

Daube, The short answer is, you can't run it in FSX.

The aircraft systems use a lot of code that runs outside of FS9. Everything is run through an Aircraft Configuration Manager (ACM). The ACM allows you to set your load, fuel, etc. Because of the anti-piracy coding, you can't move the files with out stopping the ACM program from running.

I initially had problems because I have FS9 installed on my E: drive. The installer that came with the download couldn't find FS9. I moved everything where it should have been but the aircraft didn't work. VRS has since modified the installer to find FS9 anywhere on your computer.

So, unless VRS makes a FSX version, we won't be seeing this plane in FSX.
 
Ah ok, so basically that means that those programs can communicate only with FS9 ?

That's a pity. Not ciritcal of course, but I simply think that if they could have found a way to communicate both with FS9 and FSX, they would have sold much more, allowing them to find money for the FSX convertion much easier and faster.

But in any case, I think this addon is quite popular, everything I could read about it has been 100% positive everywhere on the web, so they should not have any problem to sell it :)
 
Getting rid of FS9 was no loss.

If I want combat elements using a current-generation fighter, I'll fire up Falcon 4 or LOMAC, not MSFS.

Ian P.
 
jmig: I agree with you 100%! But........You should have known that posting something about FS9 in the FSX page would bring attacks, of sorts. Some people seem to want to dig their heels in and scream, "My sim is better than your sim". Trying to bring light to the dark side is hard work! This side seems to think that because its "new" it must be better.:costumes:

My machine is very capable of running FSX. If I want unexplained crashes, few excellent planes (the ones that are good cost more than the sim did) sand dunes in NY and fustration I use FSX. The only real reason I spend time in FSX is the RealFlight Hell Cat. FSX almost gets my steaming pile :bs: award, almost! I'll give it time becuase I have an open mind and I know it'll come long.:costumes:

If I want great frame rates, very few if any crashes, TONS of add-ons, an excellent multi-player experience, great scenery and pure enjoyment I use FS9!

The VRS F/A-18 is the best plane I have for either sim; I'll say that again, either sim! Their 18 requires much more than ctrl+E, it makes you learn its systems! It's the closest thing to a real plane that I have ever experienced! Maybe someone has something better but I don't have it yet. I have to laugh at people knocking something they haven't even tried.

Now that I've PO'd everyone.......hehe!!:costumes: It's all in good fun people! Have a very :santahat::snowman:Merry Christmas everyone!!:santahat::snowman:
 
Getting rid of FS9 was no loss.

If I want combat elements using a current-generation fighter, I'll fire up Falcon 4 or LOMAC, not MSFS.

Ian P.


Ian it's much more than "combat" elements!! More like a real MSFS experience!
 
The point here is that you have a very narrow area of interest, Mud... Combat, Combat, Combat, Combat or Combat.

Otherwise, you'd know that there are lots of models out there that require study and have systems depth coming out of their ears for both FS9 and FSX. They're just not fighters or bombers and their systems depth is in navigation, engines, failures, air conditioning and everything else. That's the "real MSFS experience" as much, if not more, than being able to fire fake missiles at the AI. As others have already said, there's nothing here that makes me want to waste hours of my life re-fiddling FS9 back into working with all its faults. FSX, for all it's faults, is a better and more advanced sim, so when this breaks out for X I may well get it, but I won't reinstall FS9 just to play with a Hornet. ;)

Merry Christmas! :ernae:
Ian P.
 
The point here is that you have a very narrow area of interest, Mud... Combat, Combat, Combat, Combat or Combat.

Otherwise, you'd know that there are lots of models out there that require study and have systems depth coming out of their ears for both FS9 and FSX. They're just not fighters or bombers and their systems depth is in navigation, engines, failures, air conditioning and everything else. That's the "real MSFS experience" as much, if not more, than being able to fire fake missiles at the AI. As others have already said, there's nothing here that makes me want to waste hours of my life re-fiddling FS9 back into working with all its faults. FSX, for all it's faults, is a better and more advanced sim, so when this breaks out for X I may well get it, but I won't reinstall FS9 just to play with a Hornet. ;)

Merry Christmas! :ernae:
Ian P.

I guess you'd know my area's of interest!:isadizzy: You coulndn't be more wrong on that assumption!! The point is, it's an excellent aircraft for FS9, well worth looking at. Your loss.
 
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