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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

VRS "Tac Pack".....anyone know the status?

I have prepaid as well and although I don't care for the silent treatment, I don't know that updates would help or be able to describe what's going on. The last update did pretty well.

Developing the real thing took an enormous group of scientists and engineers a good number of years to perfect. Even if you took out all the mechanical build/test cycles, you'd still find a tremendous amount of time spent on development. What is being developed is almost as complex as building the whole simulator, but on top of that, you need to interface with the current program.

A lot of folks missed the fact that the latest Prepar3D version added the capability to tag each instance of a simobject. This change to the basic code structure will surely be used by Lockheed Martin to gain internal targeting capability on different instances of targeted simobjects be they buildings, aircraft, or whatever. Lockheed Martin has the folks that can make that happen as an internal improvement to the software.

Jon Blum and his group have to make all this ride on top of (or beside?) the software, but yet be acessable to your wishes in any aircraft with the capability. I don't know about yours, but my installation of FSX goes into the gigabits of code.

...and the race to do all this right, as accurately as possible, and as quickly as possible is a highly competitive endeavor where any information could be used by competitors.

I have loaned at least three entities the use of the Fallon targets (SA-6 thru SA-13 batteries and buildings) for testing and development. One has the NAS as well.

Having said all that, the secrecy doesn't surprise me, nor does the time it takes to do it right.

Jim
 
That's all fine but don't publish a release date! No soon, No spring, No summer, No fall or winter.......working on it, when it's done we'll release it.
 
Jim, The issue with VRS's silence is that when we prepaid, we in essence became investors. Neither you or I would invest money in a start up company or and invention and not expect regular updates on the progress. If they are having issues and problem in coding, fine, just be up front and tell their investors the truth. I am in no rush. I would like to be told, however, my money hasn't gone into a black hole, never to be seen again.

While I agree VRS products or very good, I will think long and hard the next time someone asks for "prepayment," be it VRS or some other developer. So in essence they are hurting the entire developer community.
 
skyblazer3 said:
I wonder how the guys who invested in "Fighter Ops" feel.......
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Wow! There's a title from eons past and still not developed. I thought that one to be vaporware.

As for my pre-pay with the Tac Pack, I did also buy but having spent much time in their forums and having their Bug, I am not willing to discredit their failed launch window. I would much rather get their completed product versus a rush to meet a deadline and patch as we can type of release, as many more seem to do of late. I stand by them unjaded and content.

Matt
 
jmig said:
While I agree VRS products or very good, I will think long and hard the next time someone asks for "prepayment," be it VRS or some other developer. So in essence they are hurting the entire developer community.
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I was thinking EXACTLY that when I found this thread. Been playing with some pre-pay ideas myself recently (and have actually pre-paid some developers in the past), but projects like these - and the associated bad press - make it a scary path for many possible 'investors'. And lord knows this business is scary enough as it is already ! :rolleyes:

Mind you, they have delivered good stuff in the past, so I guess it will be alright in the long run. But getting money to survive is becoming increasingly more difficult in this world :-(
 
Well I supposed VRS will soon have to change the year on their "Pre Order" description to read, "2012", eh?

Doesn't appear it will be released this year.

Grrrrr...... NC
 
I love the Hornet myself, and also pre-ordered the Tac Pack without question when it became available.. Granted while I am inpatient in the back of my mind I hope when it does hit my PC it blows me away. They did some amazing things with the F/A-18E, and hopefully they can teach an old dog new tricks with the Tac Pack. I do agree however that it was probably bad taste to put out a summer release, and then miss the mark by such a large margin. It has happened to us too though. I know from my stand point I get disappointed in myself whenever we can't deliver on time. It is always nice getting peoples kind words and opinions at the end of a project so we can apply the lessons learned to the next one.
 
I have to say so far I have a lot of confidence in the people at VRS and I can understand the problems invoved in making this TACPACK. I've noticed that they take a lot of time to get all the bugs worked out before a release as seen with some of the beta testing. I prepaid when it first was announced just on the basis of the Vbug, I can wait till it's right.

Paul

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Well, it's officially 2012, and VRS hasn't released it yet. Heck, in just a few days, they will have had my money for an entire year!

Maybe it's just me, but doesn't that sound a little wrong?

NC
 
Did inflation go up or down last year? I want to know when we do get it, if I will have paid more because of inflation? :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

:icon29: Happy New Year Everyone
 
jmig said:
Did inflation go up or down last year? I want to know when we do get it, if I will have paid more because of inflation? :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

:icon29: Happy New Year Everyone
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Well if fuel/food prices are any indicator (which miraculously are not used to measure inflation) then you sure did pay more for it when you pre-ordered it than you have now. I never really thought about it like that, but thanks for pointing it out. I still have high hopes for the product.. The F/A-18E itself was a long time coming, so the TACPACK is seeming to follow in its foot steps. Think you guys need to start flying other stuff than just Navy birds. :icon_lol: Guess it is a lesson though. I am sure John did not mean for it to drag out this long, but it is the first and probably last time I pre-order something for FSX though.
 
Honestly, I have never understood why so many flightsimmers like to prepay, even in light of a 10 or 15 percent discount. Too many things can go wrong with that.
 
That FLIR system is one of the major achievements ever comited in the FS series, yet nobody reacted on this...
Thanks Phantom for posting that video.
It is to me one additionnal (and excellent) reason to wait for this addon.
 
Bone said:
Honestly, I have never understood why so many flightsimmers like to prepay, even in light of a 10 or 15 percent discount. Too many things can go wrong with that.
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Well, I didn't pre-pay because of a discount (can't even remember if there was one). I simply wanted to pay for it, and wait for a download link that I perceived would be emailed to me soon afterwards.

Am sure this product will be a fine one, but I won't opt for the pre-pay option next time.

Pete
 
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